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My Great Grandma Elizabeth Lambert married Herbert in about 1908, she already had my granddad George William who was born in 1906. They had 2 girls Grace and Irene (always known as Renee). Grace had 5 sons and 1 daughter , her youngest son born in about 1942 was called Tony. All of them lived in Marholm and went to Arther Mellows Village College. All 3 children were baptised at Maxey church, on what seems to be the same day. Herbert sadly died in the 1st World War and my Great Grandma remarried a man known to my Mum as Grandad Hemphrey. If you are still looking I can find out more names from my Mum,
I am interested to know why you are looking .

Thank you; sad story!

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Herbert Smitheringale
Name: Herbert Smitheringale
Birth Place: Makey, Peterborough Northants
Residence: Market Deeping, Lincs
Death Date: 30 Nov 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Bourne, Lincs
Rank: Private
Regiment: Prince Albert's (Somerset Light Infantry)
Battalion: 7th Battalion
Number: 19618
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 12128, Lincolnshire Regiment


Name: SMITHERINGALE, HERBERT
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Somerset Light Infantry
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Date of Death: 30/11/1917
Service No: 19618
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 4 and 5.
Memorial: CAMBRAI MEMORIAL, LOUVERVAL


The CAMBRAI MEMORIAL commemorates more than 7,000 servicemen of the United Kingdom and South Africa who died in the Battle of Cambrai in November and December 1917 and whose graves are not known. Sir Douglas Haig described the object of the Cambrai operations as the gaining of a 'local success by a sudden attack at a point where the enemy did not expect it' and to some extent they succeeded. The proposed method of assault was new, with no preliminary artillery bombardment. Instead, tanks would be used to break through the German wire, with the infantry following under the cover of smoke barrages. The attack began early in the morning of 20 November 1917 and initial advances were remarkable. However, by 22 November, a halt was called for rest and reorganisation, allowing the Germans to reinforce. From 23 to 28 November, the fighting was concentrated almost entirely around Bourlon Wood and by 29 November, it was clear that the Germans were ready for a major counter attack. During the fierce fighting of the next five days, much of the ground gained in the initial days of the attack was lost. For the Allies, the results of the battle were ultimately disappointing but valuable lessons were learnt about new strategies and tactical approaches to fighting. The Germans had also discovered that their fixed lines of defence, no matter how well prepared, were vulnerable. The Cambrai Memorial was designed by Harold Chalton Bradshaw with sculpture by Charles S. Jagger. It was unveiled by Lieut-General Sir Louis Vaughan on 4 August 1930. The memorial stands on a terrace at one end of LOUVERVAL MILITARY CEMETERY. The chateau at Louverval, was taken by the 56th Australian Infantry Battalion at dawn on 2 April 1917. The hamlet stayed in Allied hands until the 51st (Highland) Division was driven from it on 21 March 1918 during the great German advance, and it was retaken in the following September. Parts of Rows B and C of the cemetery were made between April and December 1917 and in 1927, graves were brought in from Louverval Chateau Cemetery, which had been begun by German troops in March 1918 and used by Commonwealth forces in September and October 1918. The cemetery now contains 124 First World War burials.

As ever, thank you for this!

Peter

1911 census transcription details for: Maxey Market Deeping
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN8709 RG78PN451 RD170 SD3 ED3 SN54

Reg. District: Peterborough Sub District: Crowland
Parish: Maxey Enum. District: 3
Address: Maxey Market Deeping
County: Northamptonshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
SMITHERINGALE, Herbert Head Married M 21 1890 Agricultural Labourer Maxey Northanst

1911 census transcription details for: Godseys Lane Market Deeping
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN19469 RG78PN1164 RD412 SD4 ED1 SN1

Reg. District: Bourne Sub District: Deeping
Parish: Market Deeping Enum. District: 1
Address: Godseys Lane Market Deeping
County: Lincolnshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
LAMBERT, John Thomas Head Married M 48 1863 Farm Labourer Deeping St Jas Lincs
LAMBERT, Elizabeth Wife Married
30 years F 46 1865 Deeping St Jas Lincs
LAMBERT, Charles Son M 13 1898 School Deeping St Jas Lincs
LAMBERT, Arthur Son M 10 1901 School Deeping St Jas Lincs
LAMBERT, Florrie Daughter F 5 1906 Deeping St Jas Lincs
LAMBERT, Clare Isabella Daughter F 4 1907 Deeping St Jas Lincs
BUCK, Isebella Mother In Law Widow F 93 1818 Deeping St Jas Lincs
SMITHERINGALE, Elizabeth Daughter Married F 22 1889 Deeping St Jas Lincs
LAMBETH, William Grandson M 4 1907 Deeping St Jas Lincs
SMITHERINGALE, Grace Granddaughter F 1 1910 Maxey Notts


Marriages Jun 1908
LAMBERT Elizabeth Bourn 7a 876
Smitheringale Herbert Bourn 7a 876

Herbert is still with his grandparents in 1901.
Sharon

Ellen also had another child before she married.


1901 England Census
about Edith Smitheringall
Name: Edith Smitheringall
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation: Daughter-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Maxey, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Maxey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Maxey
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Crowland
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
John Atkins 33
Ellen Atkins 30
Edith Smitheringall 8
Emma Atkins 7
Eveline Annie Atkins 4
Gertrude Atkins 2
John Thomas Atkins 8 months


Births Jun 1892
Smitheringale Edith Peterbro' 3b 263


Marriages Dec 1893
Atkins John Peterbro' 3b 467
Smitheringale Ellen Peterbro' 3b 467
Smitheringale Helen Peterbro' 3b 467

Hi,

A tree on Ancestry has his mother as Ellen Smitheringdale & father unknown. Could be that he was illegitimate.

Sharon

you could always purchase his birth certificate

Name: Herbert Smitheringale
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Peterborough
County: Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 251 (click to see others on page)


But its probably Ellen

1891 England Census
Hello all,

I am trying to find out more about Herbert Smitheringale who is shown below on the 1891 census; he is mentioned as grandson to John Smitheringale. Trouble is though; I don't know he isparents are!
Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Crowland
Household Members:
Name Age
John Smitheringale 44
Jane Smitheringale 44
Ellen Smitheringale 21
Fred Smitheringale 17
Jane Smitheringale 16
John Smitheringale 14
Sarah A Smitheringale 12
Annie Smitheringale 11
George Smitheringale 7
Arthur Smitheringale 2
Herbert Smitheringale 1

All born Maxey.