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the following i am told are all brothers and sisters or stepbrothers and stepsisters of joyce
wilfred
jean
ernest
marie
david
alan
grace
brian
alice
jack
ruth
i dont know any more about these people other than what is here
thanks claire

hi sorry i think herbert and ethel may have been born about 1885 i now live in australia and dont have any contact wiith my family so i dont have all the details from memory i think my nan joyce is now about 87 years old if this helps
thanks claire

MM -- that's what I said I'd done. Assuming that since the marriage was in 1944 and Faxon was born 1910, Joyce was born 1911 or later, I took the wife's surname from every one of the Herbert Harrison + Ethel marriages in Yorkshire and searched for a Joyce Harrison with that mother's surname. No dice.

There are four marriages of a Herbert Harrison to an Ethel in Yorkshire between 1900 and 1910. No way of telling which is yours.

I assume that you don't have the birth cert of Joyce Harrison. Do you know if she was born before 1911 or after, and do you know if she had any siblings? And also, if they were born in Sheffield.

I think what Janey's trying to say is that it would have helped if you had told us that you knew (or thought) what William Faxon was born in 1910. So presumably Joyce Harrison was born around the same time.

You have a question mark against the name of her father Herbert Harrison. Does this mean that you haven't got her marriage certificate?

Janey has posted the details of that. I think you need to get it, otherwise we could be looking for a lot of wrong Harrisons. We need all the details from it, as it is post 1911.

Come back to us when you have got it, cos whatever research we do now is only guesswork.

Who was born 1885? Herbert or Ethel or are you guessing? Janey, I don't think she meant that Joyce was born 1885.

Claire, you know perfectly well that William Faxon was born in 1910 -- he is in your tree.

Was your first message supposed to mean that someone ELSE was born in 1885?

I've compared every Herbert Harrison + Ethel marriage in Yorkshire to every Joyce Harrison birth in Yorkshire 1911 onward, and none of the births matches any of the marriages.

So you will need to start with Joyce's marriage certificate. Or maybe you already know her date and place of birth and haven't bothered to mention ... because her birth certificate will tell you her parents' names, and that is what you need for finding more about them.

Is she still living? I don't see a death (or remarriage) for her up to 2005.

What about William? Do you know when and where he died, if he is deceased?

The death record gives a person's age at death.


Since the marriage was in Sheffield --

Name: William Faxon
Birth Date: 19 Jan 1910
Death Registration Month/Year: Dec 1984
Age at death (estimated): 74
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 1724

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They had children 1944-1952 in Sheffield.

I don't think she was born 1885ish.

!!

William Faxon?

Ah, searching for him alone found the marriage -- fortunately it's a rare name!

Marriages Mar 1944
FAXON William Harrison Sheffield 9c 906
HARRISON Joyce *Fascon* Sheffield 9c 906


That's very late for someone born 1885ish to marry ...

You need to get her marriage certificate. It will give you her age and her father's name.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

joyce harrison married williamfaxon and they are in the yorkshire area somewhere
thanks claire

I'll bet you know who she married. ;)

If we find her marriage, that's somewhere to start.

Also, you need to tell us a place. England, for starters? Whereabouts?


There may be information in the censuses that will help. But with common names, we need to know where to look.


http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Searching for a marriage of a Herbert Harrison + Ethel, the first one is in 1895. I don't think Ethel was really a name in common use before when someone married then was born.

hi i need some help im trying to find my nans family her name is joyce harrison and her parents are herbert harrison? and ethel? year of birth at a guess 1885 i do know he was married twice and there were children from both marriges but that all i know
can anyone help ?
thanks claire