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As they seem to have had trouble with Ivanhoe's name in the marriage record, I'm wondering if this is his birth:-

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
HALLAM Ivy Sheffield 9c 418

....then again, maybe not????

EDIT:-
Found this one in 1901 census:-
Ivy Hallam abt 1881 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Boarder Sheffield, Yorkshire

....so you can eliminate this one!

More children Hallam - Bycroft born after 1911:-

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Hallam Florence Bycroft Sheffield 9c 982
Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
HALLAM Winifred Bycroft Sheffield 9c 980
Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Hallam Samuel Bycroft Sheffield 9c 911
Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
Hallam Elsie Bycroft Sheffield 9c 803

so possible children of Ivanhoe and Annie?

Denise, what about Michael's find above?
Jan

so who would be kelly and tom at marriage...witnesses?...do you think then same chose to change his name to ivanhoe for the marriage x

no surname is definatly hallam not haslam...but who knows with this family lol x

Death of John Hallam?

Deaths Mar 1895 (>99%)
Hallam John 59 Sheffield 9c 281

(makes dob 1846)

ok so maybe soe children are missing i have annie 1917approx harry 1918 approx elsie 1919 but you ave found that 1 at 1917 and samuel at 1915 but you have found 1916...to be honest yours are proberly more accurate x

it is possible that john could of died then would explain eliza being widowed but do you think something may of happend to their daughter eliza aswell hence not being on the last household find x

Eliza in 1911 with son Benjamin and daughter Lily:-

HALLAM, Benjamin Head Married M 26 1885 Silver Handle Maker Yorks Sheffield VIEW
HALLAM, Florence Wife Married F 24 1887 Yorks Sheffield VIEW
HALLAM, Eliza Mother Widow F 64 1847 Yorks Sheffield VIEW
HALLAM, Lily Daughter Single F 24 1887 Manageress Cutlery Warehouse Yorks Sheffield VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27878 Reference:
RG14PN27878 RG78PN1595 RD510 SD2 ED11 SN359

Registration District:
Sheffield Sub District:
North Sheffield Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Sheffield

Address:
27 Latimer Street Sheffield County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

The births I found are from freebmd.org which is a very reliable site, but you must not forget that these records are taken from the date of registration which could be up to two or three months after the actual birth. (can't remember exactly how long people had to register a birth at this time)

so ben married a florence...hence daughters name but eliza still isnt there??? im really starting to think alot of my unces info is wrong as there is no harry or annie as children unless john was possibly married before x

By 1901 Eliza would have been 19yrs old, so she could either be married or, as often happened in those days, she could be in service.

o i see could explain it then wats the best way to look for her marriage then x

Remember, the spelling of a name is only as good as the person recording it at the time and then later the transcriber who copies it for the records.

A Possibility ?

Marriages Jun 1900

Hallam Eliza - Nottingham 7b 767

yes miceal i was just looking on here for that i found that one and 2 in nottingham 1911 but the 1900 one seems to fit better x

sorry micheal spelt your name wrong x

Off to bed now!!
Goodnight all!

nigt...think im off now as well thanks agian every1 for all your help x

nigt...think im off now as well thanks agian every1 for all your help x