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TY safc and Belle...but as Henry was listed as a shopkeeper in the 1911 census, I think the marriage to George Coomber looks very positive.

This looks to be the baptism of Alice Emma

Name: Alice Emma Smith
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 26 Oct 1873
Father's Name: William Henry Smith occ Paper Hanger
Mother's Name: Martha Julia Smith
Address: 95 Cotterham Road
Parish: St Mary, Hornsey Rise
Borough: Islington
County: Middlesex

Don't think this is the Alice you are looking for

Alice had 13 siblings..7 deceased and 7 living as per the 1911 census. Quite possible there is another sister I haven't found yet that married a Short...I am missing 3 siblings, at least 1 of those may have been living in 1911.

This looks to be the marriage that safc has found

Name: Alice Emma Smith
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Address: 71 Cornwallis Road
Spouse Name: John Short occ Gas Fitter
Spouse Age: 24
Address: 95 Malboro Rd
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Dec 1893
Parish: St Mary
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: William Henry Smith occ Decorator
Spouse Father Name: William John Short occ Publican

Thankyou very much Glitter.
Her father apparantly had a shop, and that looks extremely likely.
I don't have any middle name recorded for her.
I was hoping I could find a 'Short' somewhere in the family to verify the Uncle Short, but I guess I will have to keep looking.
Many thanks again.:)

hi
theres a smith and short here dont know who married who

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
Hunter Florence Mary Islington 1b 483
Short John Islington 1b 483
Smith Alice Islington 1b 483
Smith Alice Emma Islington 1b 483
Taylor Edward Stephen Islington 1b 483
Willoughby Mary Ann Islington 1b 483

One possible

Name: Alice Smith
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Spouse Name: George Coomber
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Nov 1894
Parish: St John at Hackney
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Henry Smith - provisions dealer
Spouse Father Name: Henry Moulson Coomber


do you know if she had a middle name?




Rule out this one as father Henry is a blacksmith
Name: Alice Smith
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Spouse Name: Samuel Pearson
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Nov 1895
Parish: St Augustine, South Hackney
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Henry Smith
Spouse Father Name: William James Pearson



rule this one out as father Henry is a french polisher
Name: Alice Smith
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Spouse Name: Edwin Grady
Spouse Age: 31
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Sep 1898
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Henry Smith
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Grady


Rule this one out as father is a publican
Name: Alice Smith
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Spouse Name: Alfred Russell
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Nov 1896
Parish: St Anne, Limehouse
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Henry Smith
Spouse Father Name: John Russell



Rule out this one as father is an engineer
Name: Alice Smith
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Spouse Name: James Downes
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 Apr 1891
Parish: Christ Church
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Henry Smith
Spouse Father Name: James Downes

I will add that I have not found a date of death for her.
1881 is the last record I have found so far....including cross checking with other members with a similar person in their tree.

Yes Flick. She was not with her parents in 1901 nor in the 1911 census someone found for me.

Have you looked for/found her on censuses after 1881?

I am looking for the children, and other relevant dates for George and Alice Coomber (nee Smith).
They were married 4/11/1894, St John at Hackney.
Alice (1872) was the daughter of Henry and Eliza Smith (nee Broomhead)
George (1870), the son of Henry Coomber and mother unknown.
Thanks.


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