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because my cousin was lucky enough to know our granparents, and he used to tell him that his name was leek and that moses and martha took him in and he took their name.. radley

Leek could have been a middle name given to him because of a family connection .... most commonly, it is mother's or grandmother's maiden name


which is why I was trying to find the marriages of Henry's parents or grandparents.


It could also refer to a godparent.


It would be rare for it to refer to his birth name


and in fact, if it did, then it is far more likely that in later life he would have dropped the Radley and reverted to Leek



I'm afraid this may well be one of those family stories that has no basis in truth ..... may be there was a Henry Radley and a Henry Leek who were related ...... and the story has got confused over the years.


It may well be that your new cousin has been unwittingly following the wrong family.





but I must also ask why you think that this family line is the one to follow to find out if your daughter has an inherited illness?


There are 3 more lines to consider in her family tree.





sylvia

and did anyone spot that Rosan Batchelor was alos a Boarder in that same hosuehold as Henry in 1891??????


Name: Rosan Batchelor
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Eckingham, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford

Nathan Woods 29
Maryann Woods 27
Nathan Woods 2
Arthur Woods 1
>>>>>Rosan Batchelor 22 General Servant
Jessie Kennedy 23
Harry Parrott 23
>>>>>Henry Radley 17 Fishmonger
Arthur Waterman 19




but Henry's got a different occupation from on other censuses????



sylvia

have to get my daughter to bed now, but i would like to say a massive thankyou to all of you tonight for your help x

oh are you sure of that

Ruth, no it wouldn't confirm that I'm afraid, lots of middle names are just dropped... in any case the Henry Leek is still with his parents when Henry Radley is elsewhere ( i think , getting confused )

henry is listed on a census as henry leek radley, then later as just henry radley, which would confirm that moses and martha adopted him

possibly Samuel's marriage to Sarah ... again Leek not seemingly involved

Samuel Radley Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: Sarah Parsons Family
Marriage: 19 APR 1827 Bulmer, Essex, England

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sylvia

or to get the death certs of grandparents to see if it gives any clues... is it possible for your doctor to get your father's medical history? I don't know how that works I'm afraid.

So that is definite,Ruth, but to get to where you need to be medical history wise, I doubt that going back further will help to be honest, because whatever it is may not have been recognised then in any case. I'm sorry that doesn't sound very helpful. Whatever the Leek connection is, I think it is too distant to be any help in the genetic illness sense.....

you need any children and grandchildren of your father's siblings, which I presume as you have spoken to a cousin, you have already...

trying to see the Leek connection


this seems to be Moses and Martha's marriage ......... Leek not her maiden name!



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Moses Radley
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Spouse Name: Martha Price
Spouse Age: 36
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Oct 1863
Parish: St James, Shoreditch
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Samuel Radley
Spouse Father Name: John Price


Information from image:-

Moses

Age 29
Bachelor
Occupation:- Labourer
Address:- 5 Chapel Street

Father:- samuel Radley, Deceased, Carrier


Martha

Age 36
Spinster
no occupation given
Address:- 9 Chapel Street

Father:- John Price, Deceased, Wheelwright


Witnesses:- William Price and Esther Cleland



al could sign their names




sylvia

oak rd is the address on my birth cert

1911 census - household transcription
Person: RADLEY, Jessie May
Address: 43 Oak Road Slade Green Near Erith

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Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
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RADLEY, Henry Head Married M 37 1874 Railway Engine Driver Lewesham Kent VIEW
RADLEY, Rosana Wife Married
14 years F 40 1871 Hackingham Norfolk VIEW
RADLEY, George Henry Son M 9 1902 School Crayford Slades Green Kent VIEW
RADLEY, Arthur John Son M 7 1904 School Crayford Slades Green Kent VIEW
RADLEY, William Charles Son M 5 1906 School Crayford Slades Green Kent VIEW
RADLEY, Jessie May Daughter F 12 1899 School Plumstead Kent VIEW

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yes my cousins dad arthur, b1904, sister jessie may b1899, and constance,b 1911

do you know if your father had siblings Ruth?

yes i got death cert, he died when i was 5,1969 heart failure

yes thats them thankyou

Ruth, the main thing is to try and find living relatives on both sides that might know about medical conditions in family.. so do you have a death certificate for your father first of all?

Could this be the family in 1881 mistranscribed, no Henry but there is a Christoopher Leek, adopted.


1881 England Census
about Moses Badley
Name: Moses Badley
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Bowers, Kent, England

Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 27 Octavius St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:


Occupation: Coppersmiths Labourer

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Moses Badley 47
Martha Badley 55
Christopher Leek 7
Mary Higginson 42 niece born Hereford

Christine

Don't apologise Ruth, right so we know from the census below that John Radley's parents were Martha and Moses...

we'll work from that definite.