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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	21 May 2010 21:00
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	Hi David I would have said going by the profession of John on previous census's this one is your man! 1861 RG number: RG09 Piece: 3821 Folio: 16 Page: 26 Reg. District: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne Sub District: 2 St Andrew Address: 32, Pilgrim Street, St Andrews, Newcastle Upon Tyne County: Northumberland -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATKINSON, Joseph Head Married M 41 1820 Waterman Northumberland ATKINSON, Alice Wife Married F 50 1811 Durham Preston ATKINSON, John Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Waterman Newcastle upon Tyne Let me know what you think? Being a Waterman was an official recognised job and i believe there are directories somewhere. I shall see what the newspapers bring up. Tracey x
Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 3,547 Send Message	David	Report	21 May 2010 21:19
	It's at this stage my tree is a confusion, because I had Joseph as Father earlier without proof, then I found William in a census that seemed the more probable.
	Researching: Sometimes nothing is a real cool hand.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	21 May 2010 21:23
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	Ok, why did William seem more probable? Do you know when the marriage of John and Mary Ann was? T x
Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 3,547 Send Message	David	Report	21 May 2010 21:28
	Ive got 1867 but I don't recall the source of that info
	Researching: Sometimes nothing is a real cool hand.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	21 May 2010 21:36
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	I would suggest you need to order this marriage cert... Marriages Jun 1867 ATKINSON John Newcastle T. 10b 31 Scott Mary Ann Newcastle T. 10b 31 ....as we know Mary Ann's name was Scott, this will show whom John's father was. I have a sneaky idea it's Joseph. Without the cert the guessing game is too much! T x
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	21 May 2010 21:42
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	Ok the address on the 1861, 1871 and 1881 census are as follows. 1881 - Morrison Street 1871 - Bermondsey Street 1861 - Pilgrim Street. All 3 address are by the river and are only 3 miles apart. There is most def an arguement that Joseph is Thomas's father. You do need that cert to be certain tho. Tracey x
Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 3,547 Send Message	David	Report	21 May 2010 21:47
	I will do that Tracey. My tree's pedigree was ok while there was certificates to prove the lineage. Going back 4 generations has been very interesting. On my Father's side of the tree GGFather could'nt write as is evidenced in the Census of Ireland 1911 What a pity so many records were lost.
	Researching: Sometimes nothing is a real cool hand.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	21 May 2010 21:50
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	I know, it's also a pity we never had the thought of mind to ask all the questions your gonna need earlier in life when the elders were around to answer them! T x
Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 3,547 Send Message	David	Report	21 May 2010 21:58
	I couldn't agree more Tracey I hardly knew anything about my parents parents until I lost them both and eventually joined GR
	Researching: Sometimes nothing is a real cool hand.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	21 May 2010 22:04
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	Get that marriage cert and drop me a line with the answers.... and we can meet back here and persue it more. I am trying to see if i can see their marriage online and get the data without getting the cert, but cannot find any parish records online at the min. So get ordering.... !! Tracey x
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	21 May 2010 22:07
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	This on of Thomas's sisters? 24 Jun 1914 Joseph GRAHAM 26, Bachelor, Carrier of 8 Ouseburn Road son of John Graham, Retired Jane ATKINSON 26, Spinster of 9 Lime Street daughter of John Atkinson (Dec), Steamboatman Tracey x
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 5,185 Send Message	Pam	Report	21 May 2010 22:13
	Not a great deal of help as fathers are not named. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARY ANN SCOTT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: JOHN ATKINSON Family Marriage: 24 JUN 1867 All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M156066 1865 - 1885 1068971 Film NONE Sheet:
	Researching: Middlesex, Berkshire and Somerset
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	21 May 2010 22:18
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	This is whom i think your john is. JOHN ATKINSON Christening: 31 JUL 1842 Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Father: JOSEPH ATKINSON Mother: ALICE Tracey x
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	22 May 2010 10:22
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	If Ancestry was working last night i could of done this then!! This is John & Mary's marriage..... guess who John's father is? England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about John Atkinson Name: John Atkinson Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1843 Age: 24 Father's Name: Joseph Atkinson Spouse's name: Mary Ann Scott Spouse's Age: 20 Spouse's Father's Name: James Scott Marriage Date: 24 Jun 1867 Marriage Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Tracey x
Member Since: April 2006 Posts: 3,547 Send Message	David	Report	22 May 2010 10:28
	You lot are good at this. I thank you all for your help. Will I still need the certificate as proof?
	Researching: Sometimes nothing is a real cool hand.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	22 May 2010 10:30
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	Yeah you should get the paper proof... OK, so we now know the 1861 is right. I shall hunt them on the 1851 census. Tracey x
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	22 May 2010 10:45
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	I cannot currently find them on the 1851, i haven't given up yet! I have looked at this tho.... JOSEPH ATKINSON Christening: 01 FEB 1820 Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Father: GEORGE ATKINSON Mother: MARY JOSEPH ATKINSON Christening: 23 JAN 1821 Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Father: GEORGE ATKINSON Mother: MARY It seems it's possible St Nicholas church was their church, i would suggest Joseph's father is George. This looks as tho they have lost their first son and then had another giving him the same name. I shall of course endeavour to prove this! Tracey x
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	22 May 2010 10:50
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	A possible for Joseph in 1841? 1841 RG number: HO107 Piece: 848 Book/Folio: 12/25 Page: 13 Reg. District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: St Nicholas << The right parish!! Address: Close, St John, Newcastle Upon Tyne County: Northumberland -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATKINSON, Joseph M 25 1816 ATKINSON, Alice F 30 1811 T x
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	22 May 2010 11:08
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	Joseph and Alice are both listed as not being from the county, and Joseph is a Waterman, so these are def yours! Tracey x
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	22 May 2010 11:14
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	As the 1841 rounded up or down by 5 years. i would suggest the following are all yours. 1. MARY ANNE ATKINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 01 OCT 1828 Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England 2. GEORGE ATKINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 14 MAY 1826 Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England 3. GEORGE ATKINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 28 JUL 1828 Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England 4. THOMAS ATKINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 17 APR 1831 Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England 5. JOSEPH ATKINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 01 FEB 1820 Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England 6. JOSEPH ATKINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 23 JAN 1821 Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England 7. JANE ATKINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 01 FEB 1820 Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England 8. JANE ATKINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 14 MAY 1826 Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Tracey x

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