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Thanks for that ArgyllGran - I didn't look at the date on the earlier posts.

Kath. x

Dawn -

you have added to an 8-year-old thread.

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Are you sure they only had three children? There are 4 Gooch/Morris births in Sunderland between 1937 and 1945. 3 boys and a girl.

Kath. x

Just looked for her marriage to your grandad and she married using her birth name:-

First name(s) ARTHUR
Last name GOOCH
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1937
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

ARTHUR GOOCH married one of these people

Elizabeth E Morris

Spouse's last name Morris
District Sunderland
District number -
County Durham
Country England
Volume 10A
Volume as transcribed 10A
Page number 1698
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Are you sure she was adopted?

Kath. x

Where exactly in Lanchester district was she born?

There are these two girls on the 1911 census, either of whom could be a good possibility for the mother:-

1911 Census For England & Wales
1 John St South Moor Stanley S O, Stanley, Durham, England

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

William Brown Head Married Male 30 1881 Club Manager Durham Wolsingham
Mary Brown Wife Married Female 29 1882 - Durham Lanchester
Elizabeth Brown Daughter - Female 8 1903 - Durham Lanchester
Harriet Brown Daughter - Female 4 1907 - Durham Stanley
Phoebe Brown Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Durham Stanley
W Brown Jun Son - Male 1 1910 - Durham Stanley
Ellen Morris Servant Single Female 24 1887 - Durham Wolsingham<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Elizabeth Morris Servant Single Female 21 1890 - Durham Wolsingham<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kath. x

what was her birth mothers name

there is no mention of a father until her death certificate

yes she was adopted as a baby

yes there is no mention of the father on the bc

Have you got her adopted fathers name from her marriage cert?

Have you found her on the 1911 census?
Official adoption wasnt till 1927. Was she adopted as a baby?

Have you got this birth certificate ?
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Births Jun 1908

Morris Elizabeth Ellen - Lanchester 10a 381

hi i'm trying to trace details about my grandmother's family. she was born elizabeth ellen morris in lanchester durham april 1908, she was adopted and renamed cathy regan and married my grandad arthur gooch, they lived in sunderland, tyne and wear and had 3 children there before retiring to new zealand, where they both passed away.
because of the adoption and name change i'm finding it hard to trace her
many thanks
clare