There is this John Holden, widower in 1891, married but no wife in 1901. His mother is Ellen
1901 at 11, Albert Road, West Derby HOLDEN, George Head Married M 31 1870 Baker Liverpool HOLDEN, Mary Wife Married F 29 1872 Liverpool HOLDEN, George Son Single M 4 1897 Liverpool HOLDEN, Doris Daughter Single F 3 1898 Liverpool HOLDEN, Alice Daughter Single F 1 1900 Liverpool FLETCHER, William R Boarder Widower M 72 1829 Machinist Dudley **HOLDEN, John Brother Married M 43 1858 Railway Clerk Liverpool **HOLDEN, Ellen J Niece Single F 16 1885 Liverpool **HOLDEN, Florence M Niece Single F 7 1894 Liverpool
1891 at 24, Albert Road, West Derby, Liverpool HOLDEN, John Head Widower M 33 1858 Railway Clerk Liverpool HOLDEN, Annie M Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Liverpool HOLDEN, Ellen J Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar Liverpool HOLDEN, Ellen Mother F 58 1833 Halewood
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can you tell us where you got the names of Florrie's parents from please David
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possible parents of the Rogerson one
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1885 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference HOLDEN Alexander ROGERSON Sarah Preston, St Peter Preston 250/1/409
and the Kirkby one
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1890 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference HOLDEN Walter KIRKBY Elizabeth Preston, Emmanuel Preston 226/2/173
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According to Lancs BMD site - this appears to be John & Ellen's marriage:
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1879 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HOLDEN John Robert ECCLESTON Ellen Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/67/111 ..............
This is son Richard's birth:
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1880 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HOLDEN Richard Trinity Preston ECCLESTON TR/7/89
The two entries for Florence's birth in 1894 do not show Eccleston as mothers maiden name:
1894 Births:
HOLDEN Florence Burnley Preston BU/217/57 - this one is Burnley area?? HOLDEN Florence St Peters Preston - mmn KIRKBY ST.P/50/4 HOLDEN Florence Trinity Preston - mmn ROGERSON TR/44/71
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1911 HOLDEN, Ellen Head Widow F 41 1870 Publican Preston Lans VIEW HOLDEN, Florence Daughter Single F 19 1892 Confectioner Aprentice Preston Lans VIEW HOLDEN, Elizabeth Mother Widow F 75 1836 No Trade Old Age Pension Preston Lans VIEW BASHALL, Mary Servant Single F 27 1884 General Servant Domestic Preston Lans VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 25266 Reference: RG14PN25266 RG78PN1446 RD476 SD2 ED23 SN32 Registration District: Preston Sub District: East Preston Enumeration District: 23 Parish: Preston Address: Edinburgh Castle 2 East St Preston County: Lancashire
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1901 HOLDEN, John R Head Married M 42 1859 Publican Preston Lancashire VIEW HOLDEN, Ellen Wife Married F 44 1857 Preston Lancashire VIEW HOLDEN, Richard Son Single M 20 1881 Postal Clerk Preston Lancashire VIEW RUTTER, Ellen Relative Single F 31 1870 Barmaid Preston Lancashire VIEW HOLDEN, Florrie Daughter F 9 1892 Preston Lancashire VIEW Piece: 3945 Folio: 106 Page: 13 Registration District: Preston Civil Parish: Preston Municipal Borough: Address: 21, 2, Edinburgh Castle Hotel, St Pauls Square East Street, Preston County: Lancashire
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Births Dec 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------- Holden Florence Preston 8e 569 Holden Florence Preston 8e 622
(checking in Search Trees, looks to be one of above)...
If you have the Birth Cert. David, anything else you can tell us?, Occupation of John...
Chris :)
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Sorry for the terribly late response but I have only just seen your post. Thank you for taking the trouble to look into it for me.
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Don't see any with parents of those names but found this one, there is a John Holden who's brother to head??
Name: Florence M Holden Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1894 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: Edge Hill St Dunstan County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:>>>>>>>>>>>>>11 Albert St
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 85 Household Members: Name Age George Holden 31 >>>>>>>>>Baker Mary Holden 29 George Holden 4 Doris Holden 3 Alice Holden 1 William R Fletcher 72 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boarder John Holden 43 >>>>>>>>>railway clerk, brother, looks like M for married Ellen J Holden 16 >>>>>>>>Niece Florence M Holden 7
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3488; Folio: 127; Page: 14.
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I am trying to find, without any success at all, Florence Holden on the 1901 census. She was born in 1894 and her father was called John and her mother was called Ellen. She seemed to be known as Florrie sometimes. Any help would be appreciated.
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