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Re my theory about your dad having a half-sister who was registered in her father's name ... I've checked out all the girls born in Chelmsford 1930-1936 with mother Rolfe - there were only a few - and in each case there were other children born with the same parents' surnames, so that theory looks dead.

I don't know the geography, so maybe it's entirely possible Kathleen would have been working in Lothingland district, or gone there to have her baby (maybe to family?). Waiting for the certificate with bated breath!

Afternoon Janey.

Now Nicola, this is where you start to see JC's little grey cells really beginning to whirl....and when they whirl.....watch out, sit up and take notice...... lol Cx.

Crossing in the posting, Cynthia. G'day!

Hmmmm, yes. The certificate is where you need to start -- because it will give the mother's name and that will settle the question!

I'm thinking she isn't likely your family, unfortunately.

There are events in Lothingland reg dist after her birth: for example, 10 marriages between 1943 and 1974. It looks like a separate Rolfe clan, if your Kathleen was born and married in Chelmsford.

The first Rolfe who married in Lothingland was born on the Isle of Wight. And the problem with searching before Susann's 1937 birth is that the reg dist of Lothingland was only created in 1935, out of three other districts: Mutford, Plomesgate and Hartismere. So searching gets a bit complicated. ... But, for example, there were a few dozen Rolfe events in Mutford going back to 1845 and up to 1934. A Rolfe child with mother Rolfe was born in 1934 and died at birth, for instance.

Do get that certificate, and let us know, but I'd be prepared for disappointment.


Now ... if your dad *did* have a half-sister, I wonder whether she was registered in the father's name ...

Good afternoon Nicky. I had a look back on the thread and we haven't given you the ref for the birth so. if it helps you, here is the ref you need:

Name: Susann Rolfe
Mother's Maiden Surname: Rolfe
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1937
Registration district: Lothingland
Registration county: Essex, Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 1566


Here is the link for the GRO where you can order online.


http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


Do please keep us informed on here as to how things work out.


Janey, I never even thought of looking at 192 as I assumed you had to pay for all info so have never bothered with it 0 doh!! I found OH and myself no problem. So at least I know I am still living here - with him - lol



FBG......still coping with grandkids? You really shouldn't have sand on your premises....it may attract those flippin' camels!!

Had a giggle this morning whilst drying my hair.....thinking of this thread as I had just glanced at it and the comment on Sweet Pea/Calla Lily........and it reminded me of Lilo Lil - remember her from the tv series 'Bread' many moons ago?? I don't think our JC would be too flattered!

Janey,
Susann could've been my daddys half sis
The mothere maiden name was ROLFE KATHLEEN VIOLET MINNIE
sHE GOT MARRIED IN 1937 to a
MR THOMAS DAVID JONES from Shepherds bush, mum was living in Chelmsford.
Dad was put in an orphanage and was told at the age of 21 he had a half si, no more, no less!!!!
I am tryiong to locate her as dad is 75 and if she is still alive would love to meet her xxx thanx
will look into gtng birth cert asap

Nicky - Susann's mum wasn't married? Was her mum an aunt of your father, something like that?

What about two possibilities -- Susann was adopted, or her mum married and Susann took her stepfather's name? Do you know anything else about her? Her mum's name maybe?

Nicky - what you do need is her exact date of birth, which means getting her birth certificate.

That's the way to search the deaths index w/o knowing a surname -- by given name (or just Sus*, e.g.) and date of birth.

Good chance she is still living at 73ish, and the deaths index does go only to 2005, but at least you might be sure of no death in England/Wales to that date from that search, anyhow.

Hold on, duh. Did nobody just check the ER at 192.com? Well actually I did -- because I still have the tab open!

There's no Susann Rolfe on the electoral roll in the last 8 years (I think 192.com has listings starting in 2002).

So I think that settles that, unfortunately.

Persuasive???? That's one word for it!! lol


I've sent Jean a pm but it hasn't been opened as yet.


The little white envelope on my in box keeps showing white even when there are no new messages - very confusing. I think Aunty Sherlock had the same prob this morning. It's really annoying but I suppose GR have been tinkering again.


Nah, don't need a tissue thanks FBG - but what a lovely response it was.

Right...what next? Cx.

LADIES!!!!!

YOU ARE A;LL FANTASTIC !!!!

Yea you do it Janey.
You know you are the most "persuasive"of us all and get the answers the fastest..

Tissues Cynthia?

I'll go and give Jean another try and if that doesn't work then over to you and Whirley JC. Back later. Cx

Jc
tHAT WOULD BE COOL, CONFER AMONGST YOURSELVES LOL XXX

:P

I can give Whirley a shout if Jean isn't around.


Nicky -- oddly enough, Susann isn't that odd a spelling -- even up to the latest generation (from searching the births index). I suspect it is pronounced "Suzanne" and is an Englishfied spelling of it. ;)

AM sooooooo glad I have reunited all 3 of you lol
Keep up the good work ladies!!!!

Calling cards are sooo Victorian so don't know why JC uses them; anyway, the dear lady isn't quite old enough to retire so we may as well make use of her!

Things do get rather tame when you're not around JC .................I will refrain from labelling you Sweet Pea but may resort to Calla Lily if pushed...;

FBG of course I will let you know when I hear from Jean - but no news as yet which is unusual as I've usually had quite a prompt reply but maybe she is away or...........?

Must tell you..........just opened a pm from an elderly gentleman who said my message on how to return and reply to threads was 'like a gift from Santa'.........I'm filling up!! Cx.

Gosh Cynth,we have been honoured havent we,JC out of retirement for a while and leaving her calling card with us?

Hows it going Janey?
Caught up with work?
Hows your mum?did she have a good visit?

I brought 2 of my grandchildern home from Somerset for a few days,5 and 7 ,so the fighting over the computer is in full swing,but at the mo they are using the building sand I have left over to play in ,so an hours peace ...

Back on the boards for a bit?I have missed your"tongue pie"and research skills sweetpea,,,,,::}) lovely to see you.


Let me know when you hear from Jean as well will you please Cynthia,you know how nosey I am..:))

Janey,
tHANKING YOU V MUCHLY.. IS A MYSTERY!!!!!
DON'T KNOW WHY THE NAME IS SPELT IN A WEIRD WAY?

Because of the unusual spelling of Susann, I tried a search of deaths by first name and year of birth alone.

Susann Rolfe's birth was registered in first quarter 1937. So this death could be a match, although of course the location is quite different:

Name: Susann Parry
Birth Date: 13 Jan 1937
Death Registration Month/Year: Dec 2005
Age at death (estimated): 68
Registration district: Barrow In Furness
Inferred County: Cumbria
Register number: A24D
District and Subdistrict: 373/1A
Entry number: 120

-- Nope -- ruled her out:

birth:
Susann Culver Jan Feb Mar 1937 Bootle Cumb Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland

Susann Culver married Riseley Jul-Aug-Sep 1957 Barrow-in-Furness Cumbria
Susann Riseley married "Darry" Jan-Feb-Mar 1975 Ulverston Lancashire

So, no apparent death still ...