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16 Aug 2010 09:44 |
Hi Henry
Thanks for that clarification. I am recently back from a few days in Lincolnshire. Part of it involved research; all of which produced nothing apart from a few contacts in the area who may have some knowledge of local history.
Still no evidence of a Dutch link.
Paul
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Henry
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13 Aug 2010 20:30 |
Paul. John Zealand was born in 1756.
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17 May 2010 13:50 |
Hi again
I think I've searched pretty much everywhere - much of it based on the advice given her and by PM - but I appear to be stuck at John Zealand, b1773 who married Mary Loncaster (various spellings, b 1759) in 1783. I'm hoping John's birthdate is way out, of course!
I can't find any links between the apparent centres for the Zealand name -south Lincs, Yorks coast and Teesside - even though they must be there, somewhere. Let alone getting back to the original immigrant(s).
Any more ideas, anybody. Please?
Thanks
Paul
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Henry
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29 Apr 2010 19:41 |
Wendy. There are 2 people not on Alfred and Matilda's family. Albert b.1903 and d.1903, and Francis b.1911 and married James Herbert Bennett. Not sure wether the Amber Hill Zealands can be linked to the Stickford Zealands??
Henry
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29 Apr 2010 19:21 |
This was an error in transcribing, as this my Granfather and mother. I have Alfred and Matilda's marriage cerificate and there is no other name but, Matlida. It's the same on her death certificate, no mention of Eliza. You are correct about my mother, she was Margery Queenie Zealand and moved to Newark, Notts to work as a domestic and met and married John Stanley Dale, a postman.
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Tenerife Sun
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29 Apr 2010 17:05 |
Just noticed that in 1871 Ben was a widow aged 44, his wife Mary died in 1866, and Ellen Page aged 24 was his house keeper looking after his children Joseph and Enos aged 8 and 6. They lived at Stickford Drove, near Spilsby Lincs. A big gap in their ages!
So I think that Ellen became pregnant, and then Ben married her after the baby, Alfred Zealand Page was born. At a later date Alfred Page became Alfred Zealand.
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28 Apr 2010 22:24 |
1901 as YEALAND Matilda
Matilda Yealand Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Alfred Gender: Female Where born: Barlings, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Barlings Ecclesiastical parish: St Edward County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Lincoln Sub-registration district: Lincoln North East ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Yealand 28 Matilda Yealand 28 Edith Yealand 3 George Yealand 2 Infant 3 weeks
Matilda's death
Name: Matilda Zealand Death: North Kesteven, Lincolnshire, England Death: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958
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28 Apr 2010 22:12 |
Re Alfred Zealand married to Eliza for 15 years according to the census making the marriage in 1896. This is the only 1896 with Alfred Zealand in but the wife is called Matilda. POSSIBLY she was Matilda Eliza and known as Eliza. The 1901 should reveal the answer I'll have a look. Marriage iew Record Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record View Record Matilda Brumpton 1896 Lincoln Lincolnshire View Record Alfred Zealand 1896 Lincoln Lincolnshire
Also Alfreds daughter Marjory 1910 must be the mother of Henry who added to this thread and therefore Henry must be related to you in some way!
Wendy
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28 Apr 2010 16:08 |
Joseph 1863 and wife Amy Elizabeth had moved to Leicester by 1911
Wendy
ZEALAND, Joseph Head Married M 48 1863 Agent Clothing Club Lincoln Stickford VIEW ZEALAND, Amy Elizabeth Wife Married 21 years F 49 1862 Lincoln Boston VIEW ZEALAND, Charles William Son Single M 20 1891 Clerk Commercial Lincoln Stickford VIEW ZEALAND, Annie Daughter Single F 18 1893 Caiter Hand Leicester Leicestershire VIEW ZEALAND, Florrie Daughter Single F 15 1896 Machinist Leicester Leicestershire VIEW ZEALAND, Walter Harry Son Single M 14 1897 Errand Boy Leicester Leicestershire VIEW ZEALAND, Arthur Lawrence Son Single M 12 1899 School Leicester Leicestershire VIEW ZEALAND, Nellie Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Leicester Leicestershire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 19184 Reference: RG14PN19184 RG78PN1150A RD407 SD1 ED20 SN309 Registration District: Leicester Sub District: North West Leicester Enumeration District: 20 Parish: Leicester Address: 10 Bruin Street Leicester
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28 Apr 2010 15:38 |
In 1889 Enos Andrews Zealand b 1865 married Isabella Jefferys and in the same year and same quarter A/M/J brother Joseph b 1863 married Amy Elizabeth Barber both the same ref 7a 1177 possibly a double wedding.
Wendy
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28 Apr 2010 15:23 |
Ben married Mary Andrews
Year of Registration: 1858 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Spilsby County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Eliza Andrews 1858 Spilsby Lincolnshire View Record *Mary Andrews 1858 Spilsby Lincolnshire View Record John Eckersley 1858 Spilsby Lincolnshire View Record *Benjamin Zealand 1858 Spilsby Lincolnshire
Mary died 1866 Ben is a widow in 1871
You searched for Mary Zealand born in Lincolnshire in 1831 Preview Name: Mary Zealand Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Year of Registration: 1866 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 35 District: Spilsby County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Ben and Mary had 3 children John 1860, Joseph 1863 and ***Enos 1865 who is on the 1911 census
In 1861 John Zealand b 1790 a batchelor and Ben's uncle is living with them - presumably the brother of James.
In 1873 Benjamin Zealand married Ellen Page and in the same year they had a son Alfred Z Page, before the marriage I guess. Ellen is still a widow up to the 1901 at least. And I think Alfred changed his surname to Zealand and is in the 1911
Ben died 1877 aged 50
Name: Benjamin Zealand Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Year of Registration: 1877 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 50 District: Spilsby County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 384 (click to see others on page)
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28 Apr 2010 14:59 |
Ha ha the answer to your question Paul. James did have sons Joseph and Benjamin, here are their baptisms
Wendy x
Results for: Any Event, 1826 - 1846, Lincoln, England, British Isles Father: James Zealand, Mother: Mary Exact Spelling: Off [refine search] [Print] Prepare selected records for download International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 2 Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. JOSEPH ZEALAND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 17 FEB 1828 Stickford, Lincoln, England 2. BENJAMIN ZEALAND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 24 SEP 1826 Stickford, Lincoln, England
Both were extracted records
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28 Apr 2010 14:56 |
Could this be the marriage of James 1798 amd Mary - his wife was Mary in 1851 IF I found the correct census
ames Zealand Pedigree Male Family Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: Mary Wright Family Marriage: 27 JUN 1826 Hundleby, Lincoln, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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28 Apr 2010 14:47 |
these are the Zealand families in Lincolnshire in 1911
1..Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image ZEALAND, William Head Married M 73 1838 Agriculterist Farmer Hagnaby Lock Lincolnshire VIEW ZEALAND, Ann Wife Married 52 years F 73 1838 Huttoft VIEW FLETCHER, Charles S Son-In-Law Married M 49 1862 Joiner Branston VIEW FLETCHER, Mary Daughter Married 26 years F 50 1861 Hagnaby Lock VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 19828 Reference: RG14PN19828 RG78PN1187 RD420 SD1 ED3 SN51 Registration District: Spilsby Sub District: Stickney Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Stickford Address: Stickford
2...ZEALAND, Enos Head Married M 46 1865 Farmer Stickford Lincolnshire VIEW ZEALAND, Isabel Wife Married 21 years F 44 1867 Domestic Duties Firsby VIEW ZEALAND, Mary Daughter Single F 20 1891 Domestic Duties Stickford VIEW ZEALAND, Fred Son Single M 17 1894 Farmers Son Working On Farm Stickford VIEW BROWN, Harriet Boarder Single F 64 1847 Assistant Stickford VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 19828 Reference: RG14PN19828 RG78PN1187 RD420 SD1 ED3 SN50 Registration District: Spilsby Sub District: Stickney Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Stickford Address: Stickford County: Lincolnshire
3...ame Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image ZEALAND, Fred Head Married M 32 1879 Farmer Amber Hill Lincolnshire VIEW ZEALAND, Alice May Wife Married 11 years F 33 1878 Leake Lincolnshire VIEW ZEALAND, Herbert Son M 8 1903 School Friston Ings Lincolnshire VIEW ZEALAND, Walter Son M 7 1904 School Frieston Ings Lincolnshire VIEW ZEALAND, Fred Son M 6 1905 School Frieston Ings Lincolnshire VIEW ZEALAND, Minnie Daughter F 4 1907 Frieston Ings Lincolnshire VIEW ZEALAND, Ernest Son M 2 1909 Frieston Ings Lincolnshire VIEW ZEALAND, Ether Daughter F 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 Frieston Ings Lincolnshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 19570 Reference: RG14PN19570 RG78PN1175 RD415 SD2 ED2 SN26 Registration District: Boston Sub District: Benington Enumeration District: 2 Parish: Butterwick Address: Freiston Ings Boston
4...Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image ZEALAND, Alfred Head Married M 38 1873 Ironstone Labourer Lincs Brigg VIEW ZEALAND, Eliza Wife Married 15 years F 38 1873 Lincs Langworth VIEW ZEALAND, Edith Daughter F 14 1897 School Lincs Newbold VIEW ZEALAND, George Son M 12 1899 School Lincs Newbold VIEW ZEALAND, Enos Son M 10 1901 School Lincs Langworth VIEW ZEALAND, Lawrence Son M 6 1905 Lincs Langworth VIEW ZEALAND, Horace Son M 3 1908 Lincs Langworth VIEW ZEALAND, Margery Daughter F 1 1910 Lincs Scothern VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 19775 Reference: RG14PN19775 RG78PN1183 RD418 SD3 ED12 SN33 Registration District: Lincoln Sub District: Lincoln North East Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Scothern Address: Scothern Village County: Lincolnshire
5...Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image ZEALAND, Ernest H Head Married M 27 1884 Small Holder Amber Hill Lincs VIEW ZEALAND, Lily Wife F 27 1884 Help Old Leake Lincs VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 19576 Reference: RG14PN19576 RG78PN1175 RD415 SD2 ED8 SN130 Registration District: Boston Sub District: Benington Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Old Leake Address: Church End Old Leake Boston
6...ZEALAND, John Thomas Head Married M 60 1851 Boot Maker And Grocer Amber Hill Lincolnshire VIEW ZEALAND, Naomi Wife Married 37 years F 62 1849 Assisting Heckington Fen Lincolnshire VIEW ZEALAND, Oliver Son Single M 22 1889 Amber Hill Lincolnshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 19550 Reference: RG14PN19550 RG78PN1174 RD415 SD1 ED4 SN93 Registration District: Boston Sub District: Kirton Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Amber Hill Address: Amber Hill Near Boston Lincs County: Lincolnshire
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Henry
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27 Apr 2010 20:05 |
Hi. Tenerife Sun. It would appear to be the right one, but I have Benjamin as his son, or were they both his sons.
Henry.
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27 Apr 2010 20:01 |
Hi Margaret. I am showing my ignorance now, but what is BVRI. please
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Henry
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27 Apr 2010 01:03 |
Thanks for this info. I have been looking for mor info on James as I believe he is my gt.gt.grandfather. Also it's good to find the rest of his family. Thanks again.
Henry.
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Paul
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22 Apr 2010 21:10 |
Thanks Henry, Ann, Sally, Kiwibird and Tenerife Sun
Apologies for the delay in responding, but I was stranded in Egypt at the end of a 10 day holiday and haven't looked in here since before I went away. After 6 days of will we/won't we fly/camelride/bus/cycle back home it all ended happily and without excitement.
There is lots for me to look at here, with extra connections I hadn't realised - such as the potential Huguenot and Welsh links - and I'll get back into it from tonight.
Paul
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18 Apr 2010 14:03 |
Hi BatsMansDaughter
I think your 1841 is for Thomas not James.
I couldn't find James in 1841 but is this him in 1851
: James Zealand Age: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Stickford, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Stickford County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Spilsby Sub-registration district: Stickney ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 90 Household Members: Name Age James Zealand 51 Mary Zealand 46 Joseph Zealand 23 View Original Record
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18 Apr 2010 13:45 |
There are 27 Zealands ( probably only about 4 or 5 families) in the 1911 census for Lincoln. They are in the Boston/Spilsby/Lincoln area.
Let me know if you want any look ups
Wendy
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