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thanks for that Julie, will need to keep looking then as this doesn't look like a match to 1901 records! back to the drawing board.

Could be the one Martyn ,i'm afraid the only way to be sure is to get the cert unless the contacts you made can help with anymore info.

hi jan have just found a death for a john e jones aged 53 in 1927 apr-may-jun that would make him born around 1874 what do you think

As there is only one Ellen Leicester in Manchester in 1911 it's possible to do a free search to see who else is in the household with her. Go to advanced search and put in Manchester as reg district, then in 'other people in household' put in Ellen Leicester.

These are the people living with her:

Household LEICESTER, Clara 1888 23 F Manchester Lancashire VIEW VIEW
Household LEICESTER, Elizabeth 1896 15 F Manchester Lancashire VIEW VIEW
Household LEICESTER, John 1905 6 M Manchester Lancashire VIEW VIEW
Household LEICESTER, Phoebe 1867 44 F Manchester Lancashire VIEW VIEW
Household LEICESTER, Thomas 1862 49 M Manchester Lancashire VIEW VIEW
Household LEICESTER, Thomas 1902 9 M Manchester

Sorry can't do the same for John Jones as there are lots of them!

Julie

well another line sorted just ellen,arthur,& rose as leonard didnt marry have just sent 3 emails will wait to see if i get any responce

lynn M Jones 1950
Patricia A Jones 1946
Alan J Jones 1948
depending how much you want to spend to find out about your family you might want to think about getting Sydneys marriage cert to hopefully give his age so we can confirm birth index
**** or look in "search trees above for these children as i think some may be there and send them a message

good Martyn will look for children

jan have found marriage for sydney &norah shaw 1945 jul-aug-sept

mgnv
its the 1911 census i was hoping someone may have been able to look at to see who these 2 children were living with
we have birth index and lancashire birth info on them

jan i cannot see ellen anywhere , she is there on the 1901 aged 2 which you found yesterday i really dont know what to say or do

If you need the image of the GRO d.index, go to:
http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl

Anyone able to check the 2 1911 census entries
HOUSEHOLD JONES JOHN M 1902 9 Oldham
Lancashire
and this one
HOUSEHOLD LEICESTER ELLEN F 1899 12 Manchester Lancas

on the 1901 census mary has a boarder isiah stafford aged 32 labourer in a iron works ,as john was a moulder in a iron works could this be a connection ,just a thought

martyn like Ann i am hooked on this one ,got to go out but will have a look for
Sidney/Nora and children!!!!!

been looking at births for leicster just found ellen 1989 ernest 1999 & edith 1900 could they be siblings all born in oldham the plot thickens

i have looked at 1900-1915 for jones-leicester marriage no joy also searched 1918-1927 for jones-glover marriage could only find leicester-glover as jan said looked up birth for eldest son ruben mothers maiden name leicester born 1926

I'm hooked with this one but unfortunately can't get to do more parish rec searching (& find out what the record of Rose Ann said) until Thursday.

hi everyone well it looks like a brick wall again will see if i can get mums memory going again today

can't find an Ellen Leicester with a Jones in the household

Can anyone take a look at the 1911 census 's above please
John Jones and Ellen Leicester Thanks

1911
HOUSEHOLD JONES JOHN M 1902 9 Oldham Lancashire