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hi ann
so 1905 was john joseph what about the norman 1905?
gene said mary had a brother called matthew,was he the sponsor for arthur

been to the LRO today and re-checked registers for Our Lady Oldham

so to refresh our memories this is what I found

25-9-1904 (b1-9-1902) John Edward s of John Edward & Mary (Mangan) sponsor Rose Ann McCarthy

16-4-1905 (b17-1-1905) John Joseph s of John Edward & Mary (Mannion) sponsor Mary Ryland (or Nyland)

16-6-1907 (b14-5-1907) Arthur s of John Edward & Mary (Mannion) sp Matthew Mannion & Elizabeth Cowling)
address 12 Park St - note in margin says married Helen (?) Heywood d of Joseph Heywood

19-12-1909 (b28-10-1909) Rose Ann (or Rosa Anna) d of John & Mary (Leicester) sponsor Alice Kelly
address 12 Bk Park St - note in margin says married Richard (?) Hill s of Samuel Hill

7-4-1912 (b5-3-1912) Thomas s of John E & Mary (Manning) sponsor Mary Hughes
address 32 Cromwell Street

at no time was Mary anything other than just 'Mary' not even Mary E

did not find any other Jones up to 1920

did not find any Leicester pre 1900

possibly Nellie Jones = Ellen Leicester having reverted to her birth name

NO Jones marriages at Our Lady between 1900 & 1930

no Jones or Leicester baptised at St Mary's RC

ok ,i will be gutted if its not here tomorrow

I think after this long everything on it!!!!
well father's name etc and if it says d'ced as you had found a possible death index before this marriage date.Bridegrooms age ,witness names

jan,ann&julie
if the elusive cert comes tomorrow ,what do you want to know off it ,i cannot remember its been a while ,was it the witnesses

hello,not today

ordered the 4th thought today was going to be the one

Thanks you i'm ok but i will have to uncross my fingers as it makes typing hard to do.! Hope the postman(lady)comes tomorrow!!

you know what i am going to say,so i am not going to say it .well hope everyone is ok

not today Grrrr!!
deep breath in maybe tomorrow

hi julie
got cert back of mum,my mistake before it is 20 taylor st.
sorry to all that i put 21 .i must of had a senior moment
hope this has not mislead anyone martyn

oh dear!

Doh! looks like another days wait,no cert yet

An interesting thread

Please remember to add the certs you received as a Postem on FreeBMD - they may be of use to others. Especially the one for Jones. ;-)

See Tips Board on how to add a Postem

MB

gene is sending me all the details she has will have to wait for them to get here not sure how long it will be she is going on hols,but she has done a lot of work on mary &her family even visited ireland ,it appears her brother was the same as mary he kept changing his name ,but she has had no luck with john

In that case it would be really helpful if gene1 could confirm which siblings were born at 20/21 Taylor Street and what mothers maiden name was on the birth certificates.

Julie

its 20 taylor st,just remembered i ask before not the jones family living there ,i asked espana on a old thread which is now deleted sorry.
its a family called worthington.
cannot check the number mum has taken birth cert to copy it will check tomorrow,just checked 21, with last credits its a family called wall only thing in common they come from ireland

Had a great weekend thanks Martyn.

Hopefully someone will come along and look up Taylor Street in 1911. It might be illuminating!

EDIT Is it 20 or 21? In your post of 25th March on pg 4 you said Norman was born 21 Taylor Street.

Julie

hi julie
hope you had a good weekend,when i spoke to gene she knew the address 20 taylor st & said it was on certs i assumed she ment arthurs but if it was after 1911 that leaves thomas 1912-norman 1915 &sidney 1922 i am hoping normans marriage cert will arrive tomorrow maybe it will give a few details to answer some of our questions.
maybe she was talking about wedding cert

Hi all (am also back from a weekend away).

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works but if Arthur b C1908 and Norman b C1915 were both born at 21Taylor Street why are the family at 12 Back Park Street in 1911??

Perhaps some kind person with a sub would look up who was living at 21 Taylor Street in 1911.......

Julie