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I must say Catherine, i don't know how you found this information but it had me close to tears when i was reading it last night. To read a full account of what happened amazed me and couldn't believe that Nicholas was listed on there.

Many thanks for finding this

Thought this may also be of interest. It is taken from a day to day account of the 4th Battalion Yorkshire Regiment in World War 1 and the battle of Flers-Courcelettes in which Nicholas Hunter died:-

26th/27th SEPTEMBER.
Owing to working parties getting lost the trenches were not dug.
The Boch trenches were to have been siezed at 4 a.m and this was cancelled. The 4th Yorks were in Prue Trench and Starfish line.
At 11 p.m the 4th and 5th Yorks were ordered to attack trenches in conjunction with 1st Div and 5th D.L.I. and to work up Crescent Alley to junction of Trench.
The attack took place but not with 1 Div, who "lost themselves". The 5th Yorks Bn lost direction and got into Crescent Alley which they held. The 4th Yorks got into the German trench with both wings "up in the air" and were driven out by a strong counter attack. The casualties were heavy with 2 Officers killed and 5 wounded and 8 other ranks killed and about 90 wounded. The Btn was ordered to Starfish Trench to reform.

It gives a list of those killed in this action, including:-
1854 Sgt Hunter Nicholas. Home at - 30 Gronelle Rd, Grangetown, Middlesbrough, N Yorks. Born Eston and enlisted Middlesbrough, N Yorks. Age 24.

The account of the battle is really interesting and there are lots of photos, so if you want to take a look the link is the following:-

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bandl.danby/001BnIndex.html

Battle of Flers-Courcelettes. begins on page 29.
It gives a day to day account with the names of those lost so keep a hanky handy if you have a look!

Just came across this, thought it might be of interest:-

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920

Name: Stanley Hunter
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Age at Enlistment: 24
Birth Parish: Eston
Birth County: Yorks
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 4864
Number of Images: 4

He joined on 13/09/14 and was discharged in January 1915 (Having been found medically unfit for service, at home and abroad).

next of kin is noted as Father, Robert Haswell Hunter.
Address: Victoria Road, Grangetown, Middlesbrough.

thats really kind of you to find that Mel the one that you have just posted does that give any more information on ancestry?

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
about Nicholas Hunter
Name: Nicholas Hunter
Regiment or Corps: 4/York R
Regimental Number: 1854

Glad I had the right marriage then if the death was wrong. Could'nt carry on anymore as I had to go out but was just going to look at the war deaths when mother asked me for something and of course I had to do it right there and then. She will never wait! 86 years old!

its so sad to hear about a loss in the family even if it was over 100 years ago.

thanks for the information above I have viewed it and i am grateful for the information given.

A wee bit more detail on his regiment on the Ancestry.co.uk version of his death.

Name: Nicholas Hunter
Birth Place: Eston, Yorks
Residence: Normanby
Death Date: 27 Sep 1916
Enlistment Location: Grangetown
Rank: Private
Regiment: Alexandra, Princess of Wales's Own (Yorkshire Regiment)
Battalion: 4th Battalion.
Number: 1854
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Aldershot



I think it does always bring sadness when we learn of the loss of all these young men. I have been very fortunate, that in all my many years researching my own family we lost none of our men. Those that went to war all came home safely. Then researching my husband's side, I found that his great Uncle emigrated before WW1 but enlisted with a Canadian Regiment and was killed in action just days before the war ended. Such a tragedy for his poor mother. She had 5 children 4 girls one of whom died on her 3rd. birthday. Her son was the youngest of her children but never knew his father as he died when she was 5 months pregnant with their only son.

Hi rootgather

it has certainly been great and your right about the team work!

I am just so grateful that everyone has chipped in and helped find her. It actually brought a lump to my throat to discover that Nicholas died during the war.

Just for info as the name doesn't show on freebmd:-

Roberts second marriage:-

1 1909 CONNELL ELIZABETH R-X232M-1-0-2 Guisborough
2 1909 HUNTER ROBERT H R-X232M-1-0-2 Guisborough

from tees valley indexes.

This has been great and such a good example here of the team work of helpers, it just shows how everybody doing a bit can unravel things.

So just for good measure - here's that 1861 census with your Nicholas's dad as a baby. (I am going to resist looking for the connection to the other Nicholas, I don't want to spoil your fun finding the connection!)

1861

Name: Robert Hunter
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Nicholas
Mother's Name: Margt
Gender: Male
Where born: Seaham, Durham, England

Civil parish: Dawdon
Town: Seaham Harbour
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 593
Household Members: Name Age
Nicholas Hunter 61
Margt Hunter 58
Elizth A Hunter 24
Barbara Hunter 22
Hannah Hunter 18
John Hunter 8
Robert Hunter 1
Thomas Hunter 2


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3748; Folio: 112; Page: 56; GSU roll: 543181.



The actual image says he is the son of Nicholas but I think you'll agree that he looks more like the grandson!

Yes Catherine that is him in the 1911 census that you posted.

His dad had remarried

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
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HUNTER Robert Haswell Middlesbro' 9d 1139
REEDER Sarah Elizabeth Middlesbro' 9d 1139
VAUGHAN James Wilson Middlesbro' 9d 1139


Female name missing on Freebmd.


Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%)
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HUNTER Sarah Ann 46 Middlesbro' 9d 448

That is excellent research and i very much appreciate it.

Well done!

And thank you to everybody else who reseached too it was very much appreciated.

This the marriage that MEl posted and it is the correct one.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Florence Kirk
Name: Florence Kirk
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's Surname: Hunter
District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968)
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 1211

Nicholas Hunter




We just got off on the wrong track with the older Nicholas's death but I do think that he is probably an uncle to your Nicholas. Your Nicholas was named for his Grandfather or so it looks from his father Robert on the 1861 census (although I actually suspect the Nicholas that was listed as Robert's father is actually his Grandfather)


I just thought that it was more likely that poor Florrie was a war widow.

I found his death by looking on the Commonwealth Wargraves commission website (that was after I realised that the other Nicholas's wife Janet was still living at the time of Florences marriage).

You'll find his death entry here

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=794526

The marriage posted earlier will be the correct one and you can order it from the GRO (before April if you want it for £7 otherwise it will be £9.25)

Father Robert, so my 1911 could be him then.
Well found rootgatherer.

Hi rootgatherer

That is definately her! On the census for Florence parents the address is 7 Arthur Street, Ushaw Moor and she was living there on her marriage certificate to her 2nd husband

Can you tell me how you found that death info please and wherabouts i would be able to find a marriage certificate for them.

Thats great news thank you

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
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Darbyson Sarah Ann Stockton 10a 73
HUNTER Robert Haswell Stockton 10a 73
Hunter Robert Haxwell Stockton 10a 73

1901 Census

Name: Nicholas Hunter
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert H
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Male
Where born: Grangetown, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Eston
Ecclesiastical parish: Eston St Helen
Town: Eston and Grangetown
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 179
Household Members: Name Age
Robert H Hunter 40
Sarah A Hunter 39
Robert H Hunter 17
Margaret Hunter 15
John T Hunter 13
Stanley Hunter 11
Nicholas Hunter 8
George Hunter 6
Olive M Hunter 1

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4585; Folio: 20; Page: 31.

I think that was the wrong death for Nicholas - perhaps it was his father's death because I think this is Florrie's Nicholas!

Name: HUNTER, NICHOLAS
Initials: N
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Yorkshire Regiment
Unit Text: 4th Bn.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 27/09/1916
Service No: 1854
Additional information: Son of Robert Hunter, of 30, Gronelle Rd., Grangetown, Middlesbrough; husband of Florence Hunter, of 7, Arthur St., Ushaw Moor, Durham.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 3 A and 3 D.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL