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15 Mar 2010 12:19 |
1891 census:
There are 194 households listed on Solly St - this is the only Flanagan family but no John !!
FLANAGAN, Patrick Head Married M 48 1843 Plasterer Ireland FLANAGAN, Rose Wife Married F 48 1843 Ireland FLANAGAN, Francis Son Single M 23 1868 Assistant Teacher Elementary School Sheffield FLANAGAN, Rose Ann Daughter Single F 20 1871 Buffer Sheffield KENNY, Patrick Nephew Married M 31 1860 Spring Maker Sheffield
Registration District: Sheffield Sub District: North Sheffield Enumeration District: 15 Ecclesiastical Parish: Hollis Croft 123, Solly Street, Sheffield ...................................... This might be the son visiting the Riley family?
RILEY, Mary Head Widow F 60 1831 Coal Dealer Ireland RILEY, Patrick Son Single M 26 1865 Cab Driver Ireland FLANAGAN, James Visitor Single M 12 1879 Labourer Sheffield ****** RICHARDSON, John Lodger Single M 18 1873 Silver Stamper Ireland RILEY, Hugh Lodger Single M 30 1861 Labourer Ireland FITZSIMONS, William Lodger Widower M 60 1831 Tailor Ireland HEASTER, Joseph Lodger Single M 18 1873 Stoker Sheffield
1, St Vincent Place, Solly Street, Sheffield
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I did find, in case you don't already know, that Susan died in the Union Workhouse and was buried on 18th March, 1891 at St. Michael's R.C. Cemetery (St. Patrick's section Grave Ba 36. It may just be coinsidence but all the other people in that grave with her are called Riley?
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15 Mar 2010 11:56 |
Thanks MB. So the John with Sarah is defo not my John as Susan died in 1891....thank you for making this clear
The Julia on the 1871 census, married to John(?) and has children Catherine and Edward makes me think they were not married as you say the marriage is 1875
I dont have the certs with me today but just checked my tree and I have Susan Flanagan nee Hartin born Cavan
Marriage found on Cavan site Susan Hartin - John Flanagan 16/08/1861 Cavern Ireland
So where the heck is Susan on the 1871 census
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15 Mar 2010 11:27 |
This is the couple from the 1875 marriage, so DO NOT think it your John & Julia from the 1871 census. Believe this is the marriage that you referred to earlier.
Marriages Mar 1875 Flanagan John Sheffield 9c 654 McNAMARA Julia Sheffield 9c 654
1911 census transcription details for: Court 5/1 White Croft Sheffield National Archive Reference: RG14PN27871 RG78PN1595 RD510 SD2 ED4 SN268 Reg. District: Sheffield Sub District: North Sheffield Parish: Sheffield Enum. District: 4 Address: Court 5/1 White Croft Sheffield County: Yorkshire (West riding) Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born FLANAGAN, John Head Married M 65 1846 Builders Labourer Co Leitrem Ireland FLANAGAN, Julia Wife Married 36 years F 61 1850 Sheffield Co of York
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15 Mar 2010 11:23 |
Well John Flanagan married to Sarah is still alive in 1901.......
1901 England Census about John Flanagan Name: John Flanagan Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Sheffield Ecclesiastical parish: Sheffield St James County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: West Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 118 Household Members: Name Age John Flanagan 65 Saw Smith Sarah Flanagan 61 Joseph Flanagan 16 grandson, Scissor Grinder/Cutter
all down now as born Sheffield!
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15 Mar 2010 10:59 |
Hang on a minute........
Wheres Susan on 71 census. She has to be somewhere as her children are here???
Hmmmmm
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15 Mar 2010 10:48 |
Yes thats what I thought. Maybe Julia was Susan, but I have found a marriage of John Flanagan to a Julia in Sheffield.........
According to a relative, Edward Flanagan was born at that addess above but I dont have the birth cert so Im not sure
I told you this was mad
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15 Mar 2010 10:44 |
So this is your John Flanagan too??
1871 England Census about John Flanagan Name: John Flanagan Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 [1835] Relation: Head Spouse's name: Julia Gender: Male Where born: Cavin, Ireland Civil parish: Sheffield Ecclesiastical parish: Holliscroft Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: North Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Household schedule number: 109 Household Members: Name Age >>>>>>>John Flanagan 35 >>>>>>Julia Flanagan 33 ?????? >>>>>>>>>Catherine Flanagan 8 >>>>>>>>>Edward Flanagan 10 months Elizabeth Cosgrove 30 Ellen Cosgrove 12 Daniel Cosgrove 5 Edward Gwin 42 Mary Gwin 34 Maria Gwin 10 John F Gwin 3
address 118 or maybe 48 Bates Square
Births Sep 1870 FLANNAGHAN Edward John Sheffield 9c 345
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Gee
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15 Mar 2010 10:39 |
The Hanaghan family..Kate (Catherine) is the daughter of John & Susan Flanagan. Patrick the husband was the informant on Susan Flanagans death certificate.......son in-law
The listed Edward is Kates brother.......I told you this was confusing
So this is why I have so many death certs for John as I have a couple from Huddersfield just in case.
Thanks for stying with me on this!
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Moody Blue
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15 Mar 2010 10:29 |
You probably have this but...........
1891 census transcription details for: 7, Fishers Yard, Castlegate, Huddersfield National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 3569 Folio: 115 Page: 31 Reg. District: Huddersfield Sub District: Huddersfield Parish: Huddersfield Enum. District: 23 Ecclesiastical District: St Peters City/Municipal Borough: Huddersfield Address: 7, Fishers Yard, Castlegate, Huddersfield County: Yorkshire (West Riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HANAGAN, Patrick Head Married M 29 1862 Mason Labourer Ireland HANAGAN, Kate Wife Married F 28 1863 Charwoman Sheffield Yorkshire HANAGAN, Mary E Daughter F 4 1887 Huddersfield Yorkshire HANAGAN, James Son M 3 1888 Huddersfield Yorkshire HANAGAN, John Son M 1 1890 Huddersfield Yorkshire FLANAGAN, Edward Boarder Single M 20 1871 Mason Labourer Sheffield Yorkshire MURRAY, Red Visitor Single M 25 1866 Mason Labourer Ireland
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Moody Blue
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15 Mar 2010 10:21 |
Living at 100 Hollis Croft 1891 is:
1891 census transcription details for: 100, Hollis Croft, Sheffield National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 3818 Folio: 73 Page: 37 Reg. District: Sheffield Sub District: North Sheffield Parish: Sheffield Enum. District: 15 Ecclesiastical District: Hollis Croft City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield Address: 100, Hollis Croft, Sheffield County: Yorkshire (West Riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born PAWSON, Sarah Head Widow F 73 1818 Shop Keeper Sheffield
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Gee
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15 Mar 2010 10:15 |
Now theres a good question Flick!
Im starting to think John Flanagan was a very naughty boy lol
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Flick
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15 Mar 2010 10:13 |
The sons are living separately in 1891.
I suppose Sarah was actually married?
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Gee
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15 Mar 2010 10:13 |
Thanks for the info. 1891 'Law Maker' lol I think that must be 'Saw Maker'!
It's a very long story and I didnt want to confuse things. I have 7 death certifcates for John Flanagan ranging from the 1890's to 1909
Im trying pin down which one is him! Most are in the workhouse so no clue there.
Flick thats Susan on the 81, James is my G Grandfather. I have never found the parents together anywhere
Thanks you two
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15 Mar 2010 10:08 |
Susan in 1881?
Name: Susan Flanagan Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 100 Hollis Croft Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: North Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Susan Flanagan 40 Edward Flanagan 10 born Sheffield James Flanagan 1
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15 Mar 2010 10:06 |
Moody Blue/Flick I'm telling lies! The certificates at work so this is from memory
John Flanagan is NOT the informant, he's on the certificate as the husband and it just says Solly St which I know is just off Hollis Croft
I have found a John Flanagan living with wife Sarah at Hollis Croft but I dont think its him...unless he is a bigamist or living over the brush!
Sorry about the lies!!
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Moody Blue
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15 Mar 2010 10:03 |
1891 census transcription details for: 16 Court 5 House, Hollis Croft, Sheffield National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 3818 Folio: 71a Page: 33 Reg. District: Sheffield Sub District: North Sheffield Parish: Sheffield Enum. District: 15 Ecclesiastical District: Hollis Croft City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield Address: 16 Court 5 House, Hollis Croft, Sheffield County: Yorkshire (West Riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born FLANAGAN, John Head Married M 52 1839 Law Maker Ireland FLANAGAN, Sarah Wife Married F 52 1839 Ireland FLANAGAN, Thomas Son Single M 32 1859 Labourer Sheffield FLANAGAN, Hannah Eliza Daughter Single F 21 1870 Domestic Sheffield FLANAGAN, Joseph Grandson Single M 6 1885 Scholar Sheffield
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Moody Blue
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15 Mar 2010 10:01 |
Do you have any other information on the address as Solly St is very long.
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Gee
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15 Mar 2010 10:00 |
Thanks Flick
Susan Flanagan (wife) died 1891 right before the census grrrr. Oooh hang on she was 50yrs I think (certificates at work)
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15 Mar 2010 09:58 |
When did his wife die? And how old was she?
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15 Mar 2010 09:55 |
Ive tried to find this address/man using the district search on Ancestry but I cant seem to find it
I just want to know if there is a 'John Flanagan' living in Solly St Sheffield Yorkshire on the 1891 census.
I dont know his age but he is the informant of his wifes death so he's an adult at least!
If someone has FMP would you mind looking this up please?
Thanks very much
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