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Redrobin

Redrobin Report 9 Feb 2010 20:46

Please can someone have a look at 1911 census for Henry Robert A Proud b 1898 Camberwell London.

Am also trying to find his marriage. He had a son Henry Robert Charles Proud b 1924 Dulwich. Have looked on Freebmd and it gives mothers maiden name as Taylor.

The only marriage I can find is 1919 Bessie E Jay Wandsworth.

Any help appreciated. Thankyou

SylviaG

Julie

Julie Report 9 Feb 2010 20:57

To know if the marriage you have found is correct you'll need to get Henry's B/C


Hang im now confused

you say it says MMN Taylor........but Bessies maiden name is Jay

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 9 Feb 2010 21:00

Name: Henry R A Proud
Spouse Surname: Taylor
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920
Registration district: Southwark
Registration county (inferred): Surrey
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 208
Find Spouse: Find Spouse - TAYLOR, Elizabeth L

Redrobin

Redrobin Report 9 Feb 2010 21:02

Thankyou Julie,

I thought that would be the answer.
I am working on this tree for my sister as its her husbands family, and she wanted to do it as a present for him.


Thanks for your advise.

SylviaG

Julie

Julie Report 9 Feb 2010 21:05

Sylvia

Seems Joy has found it......i looked on Free BMD for a Proud/Taylor marriage.......& they haven't reached that year yet

Julie

Redrobin

Redrobin Report 9 Feb 2010 21:08

Thankyou Julie and Joy,

You have been a great help.

Does anyone have the 1911 census to look up Henry's family Please.

Regard
Sylvia G

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 9 Feb 2010 21:15

? 1901

Name: Henry Proud
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Peckham, London, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Blenheim Grove
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 280
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Proud 28
Mary Proud 27
Henry Proud 2


Julie

Julie Report 9 Feb 2010 21:18

Here the 1901

Henry Proud
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Peckham, London, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Blenheim Grove
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 280
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Proud 28....1873 Bermondsey, London, England
Mary Proud 27...1874 Peckham, London, England
Henry Proud 2

Julie

Julie Report 9 Feb 2010 21:20

1911

HOUSEHOLD PROUD ROBERT A M 1873 38 Camberwell London
HOUSEHOLD PROUD GLADYS F 1907 4 Camberwell London
HOUSEHOLD PROUD HENRY M 1899 12 Camberwell London
HOUSEHOLD PROUD HERBERT M 1911 12 DAYS Camberwell London
HOUSEHOLD PROUD MARGARET GRAY F 1888 23 Camberwell London
HOUSEHOLD PROUD MARY F 1873 38 Camberwell London

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 9 Feb 2010 21:23

Parents' Marriage?

Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>>>>Howe Mary Ann Camberwell 1d 1695
Lipscombe Beatrice Eleanor Camberwell 1d 1695
>>>>>>>>Proud Robert Andrew Camberwell 1d 1695
Pulford John Camberwell 1d 1695

Julie

Julie Report 9 Feb 2010 21:27

This is the 1891 & i was trying to see who Margaret Proud was...but she isn't showing

Robt Proud
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Peckham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Proud 58
Sarah Ann Proud 48
Robt A Proud 18
Tamar Ann Proud 17
Mary E Proud 15
Edith Proud 11
Herbert J Proud 9

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 9 Feb 2010 21:28

Robert Andrew's Death

Name: Robert A Proud
Death Registration Month/Year: 1958
Age at death (estimated): 85
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 178

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 9 Feb 2010 21:36

? Mary Ann's Death.

Name: Mary A Proud
Death Registration Month/Year: 1950
Age at death (estimated): 76
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 176

Redrobin

Redrobin Report 9 Feb 2010 21:38

Hi,

Well done you .

You have achieved in 1 evening what I couldn't in a day.

I really do appreciate all the help you have given me.

Hopefully I can now continue to work backwards.

Thanks again I have a lot to learn.

SylviaG

Redrobin

Redrobin Report 10 Feb 2010 10:45

Morning,

Thought as this is the same family I'd be better to keep it on the same thread. Hopr thats the correct thing to do.

Robert Proud b c 1832 Edenhall Cumberland

1871 census living Camberwell with daughter Emily Proud b1858 North America British Subject.
Would like to find more info on Emily. I have no details of her mother.

1881 census
Robert Proud Living peckham now married to SARAH b woolwich c1841. No Emily, but I have their 4 Children, Robert 8, Tamar 7, Mary 5 and Edith 2.

I cannot find a marriage for Robert and Sarah( sorry no maiden name yet)

ON 1891 Sarah is Sarah Ann.
All children born Peckam or Camberwell.

I cannot find Robert prior to 1871.

Did he go to America?

All help greatly appreciated.

Thankyou.

Sylvia G

Julie

Julie Report 10 Feb 2010 11:04

Hi Sylvia

I tried to find a marriage for Robert & Sarah yesterday because i want to see if her maiden name was Gray so i could tie in Margaret thats on the 1911
But could only see this one but it's too early....I think a B/C will be needed for Sarah's maiden name

Marriages Mar 1852 (>99%)
Everington Thomas Lewisham 1d 644
Forrest Sarah Ann Lewisham 1d 644
Proud Robert Morrell Lewisham 1d 644
Rowland Eliza Lewisham 1d 644

Julie

Redrobin

Redrobin Report 10 Feb 2010 11:08

Its puzzling isn't it.

Well, at least Lewisham is in the right area. Thankyou for that.

I have been at it since 7am and have only added to the problem with Emily popping up now.

I have changed my thread title to reflect that it's no longer a 1911 look up.
Thankyou for you time Julie.

SylviaG

Redrobin

Redrobin Report 10 Feb 2010 20:22

Here we go again.

I have found Robert Proud on1871 census with a Daughter EMILY age 13 scholar born 1858 NORTH AMERICA BRITISH SUBJECT.

As I cannot find Robert on 1861 census, do you think its possible that he went to North America.
Bearing in mind we can find no marriage for him to his wife Sarah Ann, could he have married In America and she followed him later.

She is not on 1871 census but he is listed as married.

Also, can find no trace of daughter Emily after 1871.

The plot thickens.

Any help appreciated, Thankyou

Sylvia

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 10 Feb 2010 20:47

1860 United States Federal Census about Robert Proud
Name: Robert Proud
Age in 1860: 28
Birth Year: abt 1832
Birthplace: England
Home in 1860: Hartford District 3, Hartford, Connecticut
Gender: Male
Post Office: Hartford
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Proud 28 born England Occ:Book?keeper
Betty S? Proud 28 born England
Emily Proud 1 born Connecticut

Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Hartford District 3, Hartford, Connecticut; Roll M653_78; Page: 178; Image: 72; Family History Library Film: 803078.

Maureen

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 10 Feb 2010 21:00

Name: Betty Simpson Clark
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Spouse Name: Robert Proud Occ: Railway Clerk
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Apr 1854
Parish: St Helen Bishopgate
County: London
Borough: City of London
Father Name: Robert Clark Occ: Carrier deceased
Spouse Father Name: John Proud Occ:Joiner deceased

Source Citation: Guildhall, St Helen Bishopgate, Register of marriages, 1837 - 1870, P69/HEL/A/01/Ms 6834/5

Maureen