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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Jan 2010 01:07

AuntyS

the mother died 10 years after the baby was born



and it may well therefore have been her husband who infected her


she might have been symptom free in 1887


that begs the question


how old was she when she died?


what about her family?




sylvia

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 31 Jan 2010 00:08

Mick, I just had another thought. Two in one day!!

Have you tried googling the district parish registers. I know a lot of them stop about 1850 which is of little use to you.

There is this site which is part of the LDS. You may find some clues here.

https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Leith_(South),_Midlothian,_Scotland


Edit. However given the fact that the mother died only a very short while after the birth of the child. The chances of the child being affected are very great. The results of such infection are not conducive to the child's good health or well being. Therefore I would agree that your Theory number 1 is probably the most accurate, unfortunately.

Mick from the Bush

Mick from the Bush Report 30 Jan 2010 21:57

Thanks for your thoughts Aunty and Sylvia,
it has given me a few ideas to try out.


xxxxxxx mick

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 Jan 2010 19:34

have you tried searching on birth year +/- 2 and place of birth only?


Hospitals and asylums often list their patients/inmates under initials only.

For place of birth try town and county, town alone, and county alone




Have you tried searching under christian name only ...... she may have been placed as a nurse child and surname written down or transcribed wrongly.





sylvia

sylvia

Mick from the Bush

Mick from the Bush Report 30 Jan 2010 09:43

1891 census - I have for all Charles's siblings - no surplus baby.

Mick from the Bush

Mick from the Bush Report 30 Jan 2010 09:41

By 1911 married to 2nd wife with 3 children.

Mick from the Bush

Mick from the Bush Report 30 Jan 2010 09:40

1891 census - Charles Winterton & Mary Jane living in Greenwich london, minus baby.

1897 Mary jane dies - have certificate.

1901 census Charles W (soldier) living in lodging house Maidstone Kent minus baby>

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 30 Jan 2010 09:05

Mick you wish to know what happened to Jane Evelyn Winterton??

You are telling us that on all census information about Mary Jane Williamson and your grandfather between 1887 to 1911 the baby has disappeared.

You have the BDMs for grandfather and wife.

Obviously you have BDM for child's birth.

You have searched for a marriage and/or a death for the child.

Did your grandfather have siblings with whom the child may have been placed. Have you searched census info for them.

Did Mary Jane have family with whom the child may have been placed, same question.

I'm not very good on Scottish orphanages, is that worth a search.

If the family travelled to Ireland. Bother I don't think they kept migration details between the UK countries.


SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 Jan 2010 07:45

where was Mary Jane Williamson in 1891?

If not with your grandfather, where was he?


where is your grandfather in 1901? 1911?




sylvia

Mick from the Bush

Mick from the Bush Report 30 Jan 2010 06:51

Family story -both wife and daughter "drowned in Ireland"- obviously not true for wife anyway!

Mick from the Bush

Mick from the Bush Report 30 Jan 2010 06:47

Born 2 May 1887 South Leith Scotland. Baptized soon thereafter.
Then disappears from all records.
Her mother was my grandfathers first wife - Mary Jane Williamson - she died of tertiary syphillis in Lambeth London on 16 Sep 1897.

What happened to the baby?

(i know everything there is to know about my granfather and his first wife, so please dont waste time with BMDs or censuses for them- lol)

Theory 1- the baby was born retarded and placed in an institution (?)


xxxxxxx mick

Mick from the Bush

Mick from the Bush Report 30 Jan 2010 06:43

Heres a challenge for Janey or any of you other super sleuths on here!