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pm from Michael

we might have some thing to go with the name palmer has come about from a relavite in wales and we think they where a sister to florence and the marriage for them was palmer was there maiden name

not quite sure where this fits in Michael

Mike,

You really need to get some certificates to solve this.

Rose

i think there is a name morgan that could come in to this that being a surname for florence as the is a link to pontypridd with a anutie nell but nell is short for ellen

rose i think i have found her maiden name it could be shepherd there is a record of a florence lousie loader (shepherd) giving birth to a child in dec 1912 in bicester but no more info on that record number 3a 2026 i think this could be wrong and looking into this to much that could be florence lousie loader being born 1912 mothers maiden name shepherd just got lost in this

This must be the death registration:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Florence L Turner
Name: Florence L Turner
Death Registration Month/Year: 1962
Age at death (estimated): 83
Registration district: Chipping Norton
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 774

Makes her born c1879 and about 36 when she married. Given her age, she was probably married before.



Rose

OK Michael

If you are going to get that marriage certificate let us know when you have it and the details it gives then we can take it from there

I assume you do not need Cyril's birth certificate to be sure of his parents names. How did you find them? Family stories can often be misleading

ann i am still new to this and i am giving you all i can on this person that i know of so please bear with me
many thanks for the help that you are giving me
mike

rose , she died in woodstock in oxfordshire on the 25 august 1962

on the transcrips it says loder on cyrils john turner brith record that's all i can give you as i dont have any hard copy of that brith record or deatils from it cheer's for helping
mike

Michael

we might be able to help more if you could answer all the questions you have been asked please

As Jan has already said, I found the marriages of a few Florence L's to Loader on www.freebmd.org.uk

Kath. x

There's this one but you really need the marriage cert.

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD LODER ALBERT M 1858 53 St George London
HOUSEHOLD LODER EMMA F 1851 60 St George London
HOUSEHOLD LODER FLORENCE LOUISA F 1884 27 St George London


Edit: She married Thomas A Allen.

Rose

This is the site you need to use:

www.freebmd.org.uk

Have a look and play around - very satisfying to find your own stuff!

Jan

how is Florence described on your grandfathers birth certificate

if she had been married before she would have been "Florence Turner formerly xxxxxxx lately (or similar wording) Loader"

When and where did she die? You can get her age from the death registration.

Rose

kath that is very helpful where did you find florence l marrying a mr loader i was thinking about going tomorrow the get a copy of the marriage record to help me with puzzel as i have spent alot of time getting no where

Could you tell us please how you knew the one in Thame that you mention was not the right one.

Do you have more info that might be helpful in trying to find her birth

If you buy the marriage certificate it should tell you whether or not Florence had been married before. There are a few marriages of a Florence L. marrying a Mr. Loader. If she had been married before this could be why you can't find a birth for her with the name Loader.

Kath. x

Is this it?

Marriages Jun 1915
Loader Florence L P Turner Bicester 3a 2857
Turner George Loader Bicester 3a 2857

What does the P stand for, how old was she and who was her father?

Rose

Is this the marriage? :-

Name: Florence L P Loader
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname: Turner
District: Bicester
County: Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 2857

Kath. x