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I have resurrected this one.

I think we can now assume that Ethel Marshall Warby was indeed born Ethel Marshall Currell.

Her mother is Sarah (maiden name unknown), but whom is her father?.... i have tried to narrow it down a little, but i need some opinions from others!!

I am going to order this birth cert i think, but it would be nice if we solved it before it arrives!


Tracey x

I know, but sadly i'm in North Warwickshire...

It's on my list of things to do this year.


T x

You could try Lewisham library.

Hey Ladykira.

Thanks for that..... i did have a look on Googlemaps, as they have traced the images past there.... The lane did look tiny.

I wonder if they are the original buildings?


Tracey x

I checked out the address on my A-Z.
I was puzzling why an address would be off a main rd I was very familiar with but I did not recognize. We sat naved it on our way past yesterday. To our amazenent it is not a rd but I tiny pedestrian alley around 5-6 feet wide. Never noticed it before. It was dark and we could not stop but may be original buildings.

he was born at 2 Patrol Place.

Tracey

Not just Payne by name your gran then Tracey !

And see what you make of the little puzzle I have left you.

Little Boy Blue wold be easier.

I am near Catford. What was the address.

Well i have the results lol..

2 families at that address in 1920.

Ethel & John Payne and....

Elizabeth & George Bacon & George William Bacon.

No help there then!


Tracey x

"Fingers crossed then" !!!

Dea x

Yeah ernest was British, born Catford.


T x

I have a very nice person calling me back about 12 Spencer Road, St Pancras (my Grandmother's birth address) Hopefully there maybe other people at the address which might give me some clues.!


Tracey x

Was Ernest British?

Dea x

Hahaha, Yeah Dea, i figured i'd post it anyhow!

I did say i didn't think it was gonna help any!

Tracey x

Hi Tracey,

I am sure it is wonderfull to have it but it doesn't really help any !

I have been looking but have not found anything more than others have found - sorry.

I will keep at it!

Dea x

Sorry i've not been here, work tends to take over my life sometimes!!

I have finally (after waiting 2 weeks) got my grandparents marriage cert.

20th Sept 1943
Ernest Pyne, 22, Bach, L.A.C RAF, No3 signals Depot RAF ME, Frederick Pyne, Postman
Ivy Freda Grace Payne, 23, Spin, Private ATS, Kasr-EL-Nil Barracks, Cairo, John Payne, Platelayer.

Tracey x
Both signed it.

The record at CWGC (free, and often more accurate than what Ancestry does with them) specifies:

Name: PAYNE
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: Middlesex Regiment
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 29
Date of Death: 24/04/1918
Service No: L/12749
>> Additional information: Son of Jabez and Emily Payne, of 9, Kimberley Rd., Pleetville, St. Albans.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. D. 12.
Cemetery: CRUCIFIX CORNER CEMETERY, VILLERS-BRETONNEUX

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=253227

possibly son of jabez

Soldiers Died in the Great War 1914-1919 - soldier details

Name: Alfred PAYNE Memorial Scroll


Regiment, Corps etc.: Duke of Cambridge's Own (Middlesex Regiment)

Battalion etc.: 2nd Battalion.

4.8.14 Malta. Sept. 1914 to England and Hursley Park in 23rd Bde. 8th Div. 7.11.14 landed at Havre. 11.11.18 23rd Bde. 8th Div. Belgium; Douvrain. N.W. of Mons.


Last name: Payne

First name(s): Alfred

Initials: A

Birthplace: Wheathampstead, Herts

Enlisted: Mill Hill, Middlesex

Residence:

Rank: L/CPL

Number: L/12749

Date died: 24 April 1918

How died: Killed in action

Theatre of war: France & Flanders

Marriages Dec 1878 (>99%)

PAYNE John St Albans 3a 589

WARBY Rose St Albans 3a 589