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Hi Cherilyn and others who came to my aid

I was able to sort a lot of my tree out from your valuable contributions.

Many thanks and merry christmas everyone.

Pittsy :-)

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Hi Cherilyn,

Wow you have been busy, thanks for all that info, will try to digest it all, was surprised Willam's family also came from England.

Have only just found out i have rellies in OZ.

regards

sue

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nudge for Sue

william's parents marriage in UK:

Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%)
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GARDNER Hepzibah Gloucester 6a 623
LOVELOCK Jesse Gloucester 6a 623


His birth:
Births Jun 1878 (>99%)
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Lovelock William David Hartley W. 2c 171

A brother's birth (he died in Manly NSW in 1886):
Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
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LOVELOCK Stephen Henry Gloucester 6a 306


here they are in 1881:
Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Jesse LOVELOCK Head M Male 29 Dogmersfield, Hampshire, England Driving Band Maker (Leather Goods)
Hephzibah LOVELOCK Wife M Female 29 Bn St Mary, Gloucester, England Driving Band Maker Wife
Ada Mary LOVELOCK Daughter Female 4 Odiham, Hampshire, England
William David LOVELOCK Son Male 2 Odiham, Hampshire, England
Ann SHIPP Lodger W Female 60 North Nibley, Gloucester, England Domestic Servant

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Source Information:
Dwelling 83 Front Terrace
Census Place Gloucester Barton St Michael, Gloucester, England

At some point they relocated to Middlesex, where sadly Ada died:
Deaths Jun 1885 (>99%)
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Lovelock Ada Mary 8 Staines 3a 7


and another daughter was born (only to die on the voyage to Australia):
Births Mar 1884 (>99%)
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Lovelock Amy Ethel Staines 3a 12


Their arrival in NSW:
LOVELOCK Hepzebah 34 Parthia 1886 Sydney and family Reels 2143, 2497
LOVELOCK Jesse 34 Parthia 1886 Sydney and family Reels 2143, 2497
LOVELOCK Stephen 4 Parthia 1886 Sydney and family Reels 2143, 2497
LOVELOCK William 7 Parthia 1886 Sydney and family Reels 2143, 2497
LOVELOCK Amy 1 Parthia 1886 Sydney and family. Died on voyage (dv) Reels 2143, 2497

Jesse and Hepzibah had another son named Ernest James in Petersham in 1887. He married Beatrice V L COLLISON in Portland NSW in 1910 and died in 1962 in Auburn NSW.

Jesse died in 1889 in Marrickville and Hepzibah in 1896 in Newtown. So poor Wm and Ernest were orphaned quite young.

omg JUST FOUND HER!!!

LOVELOCK ANN PHILLIPS December 27, 1970 93 YEARS MURWILLUMBAH GENERAL CEMETERY, Cnr. TREE St. & BYANGUM Rd., GENEALOGISTS EXTRACTION
LOVELOCK WILLIAM DAVID October 27, 1927 49 YEARS BANNER St, MURWILLUMBAH
LOVELOCK WILLIAM DAVID October 27, 1927 48 YEARS MURWILLUMBAH GENERAL CEMETERY - SECTION "C" - PRESBYTERIAN

http://www.brandis.com.au/genealogy/gendata/tweedhd/l.html

Does not appear that she died in NSW or Qld.

Perhaps contact the council and they may be able to offer funeral application info.
http://www.tweed.nsw.gov.au/cemeteries/default.aspx

Or contact Jenny Brandis at her site (above) re the cemetery index.

Good luck!!! :-)

Hi Sue

Yes it seems she did move to Qld - to Coorparoo, just out of Brisbane.

The Courier-Mail, Saturday 11 October 1941
LOVELOCK— DICK.— A frock of delphine blue crepe romalne will be worn by Miss Marjorie M. Dick when she is married to Mr. Hilton Lovelock
(elder son of Mrs. A. P. Lovelock, Coorparoo, and the late Mr. W. D. Lovelock) in St. Andrews Presbyterian Church. Creek Street, this afternoon, and she will pin orchids on her white handbag. The Rev. N. L. D. Webster will officiate. The bride, who is the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. J. D. W. Dick, Auchenflower, will be attended by her sister, Miss P. Dick, wearing rose du Barry romaine, and orchids will be pinned on her handbag also. Mr. Owen Lind will be best man.

His enlistment
LOVELOCK HILTON : Service Number - Q231834 : Date of birth - 20 Dec 1905 : Place of birth - COONAMBLE NSW : Place of enlistment - BRISBANE QLD : Next of Kin - MARJORIE

However, a search of Brisbane Council cemeteries comes up blank for Hilton, Marjorie and Ann.

Two of their surviving 3 daughters married in Murwillumbah NSW - Isobel to Wm J. TREVAN in 1929 and Amy to Wm P. BURKE in 1930. Wm LOVELOCK died in Murwillumbah in 1927.

Isobel's husband's WWI enlistment, aged 23?
TREVAN William James : Service Number - 6138 : Place of Birth - Ballarat VIC : Place of Enlistment - Sydney NSW : Next of Kin - (Father) TREVAN Thomas

This could be Amy's death notice at Ryerson Index:
BURKE Amy Elizabeth Death notice 09MAY2011 Death 97 Ballarat Courier 11MAY2011

Sorry I can't offer more

Many thanks for the look up Cherilyn (Abrahams/Stacey)

Hi Cherilyn.
Thanks for your offer.

Looking for Ann Phillips Lynn b 12/6/1877 Alwick Northumberland, migrated to NSW in 1886, possibly married William D Lovelock 1901 Merewether.

Have tried to trace a death in NSW but no luck, possibly went to Queensland, could you try to locate there deaths please.

Thanks
sue

Hi Heather

Do you have any idea when he died, or if he was married?

No death to 1888 with those parents.

Hi Barbara

Her death notice:

Western Mail, Thursday 14 October 1920
DEATHS.
ABRAHAM.-On October 10,1920, at the Perth Public Hospital, May, dearly beloved wife of Charles Edward Morris Abraham, mother of John Charles, and sister of W. A. and H. G. Stacey, of No. 1 Matheson-terrace, Claremont, aged 39 years.

The same notice was in the West Australian newspaper on the 12th.

This must be the John C ABRAHAM born 1913 in Perth (reg 2245). No marriage or death found for him in WA.

Charles E M died in 1948 in Perth (reg 1653), aged 67. His death notices give his death date as 25/7/1948, in Claremont, and only mention friends - the Butler and Sawkins families.

From NLA Trove newpspaer site and MCB WA cemetery as well as WA bdms.

Cherilyn

Thanks for the link.

Pittsy

Hi

Would you mind searching for any children born to Charles E and May Abrahams (nee Stacey). This would be between 1911 and 1920 (when I believe May died - Claremont, Perth).

many thanks

B

Hi Cherlyn,
You have helped me before and I'm back again. I'm looking for the marriage of James Wood in Victoria. He was born in 1827 Rugeley, Staffordshire, and parents were John & Charlotte. He lived and died at Eaglehawk as far as I know.
Thanks...Heather

Pat, here is the link to Kerri's thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1257411?page=3

Cherilyn

I am thinking that the marriage notice in the Barrier Mail Broken Hill is a typing error and should say Nott not Mott. My father insists that Clarence NOTT and Edith MOTT were her parents so they must have had her some time before there marriage in 1928. I have found more information on her 2nd marriage (after the death of her husband Stuart (Stewart) Ogilivie) to Raymond Williams at Semaphore SA and the electoral role for that area June 1943 and found that Raymond Henry (laborer) and Iris Mary (home duties) Williams were living at 42 South Terrace, Semaphore and Albert Norman (spinner), Albert Charles (teacher) and Olive Pearl (home duties) Williams were living at 20 Brown Street, Semaphore.

This still doesn't solve my problem of confirming that Clarence Nott and Edith Mott were her parents. Would love the link to kerri's thread as suggested.

Many thanks

pat


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Hi Pat

Something doesn't add up there - was Edith Irene born a MOTT? If so she married very late since if iris is her daughter, the daughter married only 10yrs after her mother did!

Also wouldn't the marriage notice say she was the daughter of Mr & Mrs NOTT (or Mrs Mott), rather than Mr & Mrs Mott?

???

try kerri's thread - if you can't find it I will nudge it for you

That would be a great help. My 85 year old father say that her parents were Clarence Nott and Edith Irene Mott (my father's auntie) who married in 1928 at Broken Hill. Iris must have been born prior to their marriage - perhaps between 1920-28.

Thanks

Pat

No sorry - if they married in SA maybe Kerri on these boards can help - the marriage reg may state father's name.

:-)