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Thanks Chris - sorry Sylvia, not much to go on. I can't see him in Australia but have not looked in detail at every state...there is every chance he was in Canada or somewhere else.

Can you find him on a outward shipping list to narrow his destination??

Hi Cherilyn - I wonder if you could help at all please ? I have a Leslie Reddick and wife Beatrice. They emigrated to Australia from England but unfortunately I do not know when. I imagine it to be in the early 1950's on the cheap £10 passage. As they lived in Melbourne area I imagine they arrived in Melbourne. The 'ask a librarian service' were not able to propvide me with information as to when or where they arrived but did say that In 1999 they lived 3 Long Street, Langwaren, Melbourne and in 2008 45 Richard Drive, Langwaran, Melbourne. Beatrice died 25 Feb 2000 and Leslie 21 Sept 2011. I do not know if they owned their properties or rented them. I have been unable to trace either a Will or Probate notice for them and I was wondering what the law is in Australia for folk who do not leave a will. Here in England, if there is no family any assets, savings etc. go to the State. Does the same thing happen in Aujstralia ? and what assets does one have to have to need to go to Probate. Here in England it is £10,000. I would be grateful for any information you could give.

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Hi Cherilyn you have helped me before, I have been looking into a relatives family and found he married a Maria J Rowan he was William Ashton in 1869 New South Wales Sydney, I think I have foun d her birth 1848? N.S.W Sydney parents Denis Rowan and Bridget and Their marraige in 1845 Sydney N.S.W I think they came from Ireland. I wonder if you could check this information for me especially the parents Denis Rowan and Bridget Gavin. William Ashton Was sent to N.Z and was in the Waikato and West Coast Campaign 1863/1866 (This was a surprise as my brother went to live in Waikato and his wife was a Maori, I must email my newphew to send my some more information about it) Sheila

Hello again Sheila :-)

So the birth in 1848 is for Mary ROWAN to Denis and Bridget.

Marriage for Denis ROWAN to Bridget GAVIN in 1845.

Possible death as Dennis ROWAN son of Dennis & Margaret, in 1896 in Casino district. A Dennis ROWAN arrived in NSW in 1845 aged 26 aboard 'Herald'.

And three deaths for a Bridget ROWAN - 1853 (aged 45), 1899 and 1915.

Sheila a tree online has this Mary ROWAN marrying in 1869 but to a Peter HELD (Grafton district, reg 2418). Death for Mary HELD, daughter of Denis & Mary (may be informant error) in 1933, Granville district (reg 1051).

So I think this may be the wrong Rowan line.

Not sure if the 1869 cert would tell you her father's name. Do you know when/where she died? Was it in NZ?

After William Ashton and Maria J Rowan married in 1869 in Sydney N.S.W they went to Uk on census 1n 1871 at Aldershot she was known sometimes as Jane or Moriale and seems to have been a midwife. Looking again it seems she married again in 1918 to a Charles Chadwick, cannot find the deaths for either Jane (Maria J) or Charles. I was doing this research for a relative and she was interested in the Rowan side as she thinks she has Irish ancestors . However, I think I will give up as there are lots of people with the Ashton name looking for family and she does not want to get involved. Thanks for all your trouble, nice to have contacted you again. as you are always helpful

Hi Sheila, so does the 1871 census show a birthplace for her? Could be a good clue?

ASHTON, MARY SARAH (ROWAN)
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 95

(1871 just gives Australia for birthplace, a Daughter Mary age 1, born Exeter is with them, presume above)

Chris :)

Devon Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Mary Sarah
Last name Ashton
Baptism year 1870
Baptism date 11 Jun 1870
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Heavitree
Father's first name(s) William (Private ? 50th Regt.)
Mother's first name(s) Maria Jane
(Abode, Topsham Barracks)


1881 (Find My Past) (also same, nothing else!)
William Ashton Head Married Male 43 1838 Labourer In Iron Works Bolton, Lancashire, England
Maria J Ashton Wife Married Female 33 1848 - Australia
Mary S Ashton Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Exeter, Devon, England
William T Ashton Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Aldershot, Hampshire, England
Henry A Ashton Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Colchester, Essex, England
Clara E Ashton Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Ireland
Margaret L Ashton Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Ireland
Harriet E Ashton Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Lancashire, England
House number 5
Street Lythgoes Lane
Parish Warrington
County Lancashire
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 3792
Folio 41
Page 22


Marriage: 2 Oct 1893 St Peter, Warrington, Lancs.
William Thomas Ashton - 22, Engine driver, Bachelor, 5, Lythgoes Lane
Frances Whitehead - 19, Spinster, 5, Lythgoes Lane
Groom's Father: William Ashton, (deceased), Labourer
Bride's Father: John Whitehead, Labourer
Witness: William Forster; Clara Eugenie Ashton
Married by Banns by: J. A. Cooil
Register: Marriages 1891 - 1901, Page 32, Entry 63
Source: LDS Film 1655858


? (not 1918 as mentioned)

Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
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ASHTON Jane Warrington 8c 301
CHADWICK Charles Warrington 8c 301
Sharratt Edward George Warrington 8c 301
Shaw Alice Warrington 8c 301


Marriage: 19 Jul 1896 St Peter, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Charles Chadwick - 42, Soldier, Widower, 5, Lythgoes Lane
Jane Ashton - 45, Widow, 5, Lythgoes Lane
Groom's Father: Charles Chadwick, Bricklayer
Bride's Father: Denis Rowan
Witness: Ernest William Sankey; Mary Higginson
Married by Banns by: B. Percival
Register: Marriages 1891 - 1901, Page 96, Entry 192
Source: LDS Film 1655858

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Well! That IS interesting that the Chadwick-Ashton marriage shows her father as Denis Rowan!

Must be some connection...might be worth contacting the researchers who have the Rowan-Held information to see if they have any certificates or other evidence that she is the one born in 1848?

Interestingly there is another Mary ROWAN born in NSW, in 1847 to Andrew & Mary. Mary being the mother's name on the death of Mary HELD.

But the name Denis keeps popping up!

There are two marriages for Mary ROWANs that could be these two women - the one in 1847 to Andrew and the one in 1848 to Denis:
-Mary ROWAN to James DUFFY in Bathurst in 1863
-Mary ROWAN to Peter HELD in Grafton in 1869

'Your' lady is definitely Maria J ROWAN on her marriage to William, which makes me doubt that she is either the 1847 or 1848 NSW birth.

I'll keep looking but I think your friend should get one of the certificates :-D

Thanks everybody for the information I found a Mary Rowan born 1848 on Ancestry in Sydney N.S.W father Denis Rowan and mother Bridget I wish she would stop changing her first name Maria/Mary/Jane. The relative does not want to contact her other relatives from this side of the family so not much more I can do. Thanks everybody

Hi Cherilyn

I wonder if you might take a look a this thread and be able to find any more up to date records about the Brittains mentioned - I think my cousin is travelling to Australia later in the year and is probably hoping to find relations. I suppose it's trying to find if Harry and wife had more children out there and if any married (looks as though Peter did to a Daphne). And then were there any children from that/those marriages etc.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1366645?page=0

Thank you - GG

Hello GG

Sorry I'm afraid I can't find any trace of them :-(

Thanks for trying Cherilyn.