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7 Jan 2010 09:18 |
Possible 1851 for James:-
Name: James Kirkpatrick Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Andrew Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfries Parish Number: 850 Civil parish: Torthorwald County: Dumfriesshire Address: Drumbreg Occupation: Scholar ED: 4 Page: 1 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 2 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1851_210 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Kirkpatrick 56 born: Torthorwald, Dumfries Occupation: Farmes Of 85 Acres (employing 4 Labourers 1 In Door & 3 Out) Jane Kirkpatrick 46 born: Ruthwell, Dumfries David Kirkpatrick 17 born: Torthorwald, Dumfries Margaret Kirkpatrick 13 James Kirkpatrick 11 Mary Kirkpatrick 9 John Glendenning 16 James Anderson 27 Sarah Wilson 34 Mary Richardson 18
Possible marriage:- ANDREW KIRKPATRICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: 03 DEC 1832 Torthorwald, Dumfries, Scotland Spouse: JEAN AFFLECK
Possible:- Andrew KIRKPATRICK Male Event(s): Birth: About 1795 Christening: Death: 07 JAN 1860 Drumberg Farm, Torthorwald, Dumfries, Scotland Burial: Parents: Father: David KIRKPATRICK Mother: Margaret LORRAIN Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
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7 Jan 2010 08:59 |
1881 Name: Mary Jane Kirkpatrick Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire Registration Number: 850 Registration district: Torthorwald Civil parish: Torthorwald County: Dumfriesshire Address: Redhills Farm Occupation: Farmer'S Daughter ED: 2 Household schedule number: 1 Line: 4 Roll: cssct1881_327 Household Members: Name Age James Kirkpatrick 41 born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire Occupation: Farmer (Of 525 Acres, - Of Which 360 Arable - Employing 7 Men, 7 Women & 4 Boys) Elizabeth Kirkpatrick 40 born: Dumfries, Dumfriesshire James Kirkpatrick 20 All children born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire Mary Jane Kirkpatrick 19 Andrew Kirkpatrick 17 Margaret Kirkpatrick 15 Elizabeth Kirkpatrick 13 Ellen Kirkpatrick 11 Francis N Kirkpatrick 10 Agnes K Kirkpatrick 8 Williammina N Kirkpatrick 6 David Kirkpatrick 4 Annie W Kirkpatrick 2 John C Wells 19 John Coupland 19 Jane J Rae 19 Margaret Kerr 26
1871 Name: Mary S Kirkpatrick Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Gender: Female Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfrieshire Registration Number: 850 Registration district: Torthorwald Civil parish: Torthorwald County: Dumfriesshire Address: Redhills Farm House Occupation: Scholar ED: 2 Household schedule number: 3 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1871_185 Household Members: Name Age James Kirkpatrick 31- born: Torthorwald, Dumfrieshire Occupation: Farmer Of 200 Acres Of Which 140 Arable Employing 4 Labourer Elizabeth W Kirkpatrick 30 - born: Dumfries, Dumfrieshire James Kirkpatrick 10 Mary S Kirkpatrick 9 Andrew Kirkpatrick 7 Margaret Kirkpatrick 5 Elizabeth Kirkpatrick 3 Ellen Kirkpatrick 1 Kirkpatrick under 1 mo Eliza Swan 25 James Carruthers 25 Thomas Mitchell 18 James Graham 16 Isabella Wallace 26 Sarah Kerr 21 Elizabeth Forguson 15
Possible marriage for James and Elizabeth:- JAMES KIRKPATRICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: 07 NOV 1859 Torthorwald, Dumfries, Scotland Spouse: ELIZABETH W. HENDERSON
1861 Name: James Kirkpatrick Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire Registration Number: 850 Registration district: Torthorwald Civil parish: Torthorwald County: Dumfriesshire Address: Redhills Occupation: Farmer Of 200 Acres ED: 2 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1861_145 Household Members: Name Age James Kirkpatrick 21 Elizabeth Kirkpatrick 20 born: Dumfries, Dumfriesshire James Kirkpatrick 10 Mo William Docherty 24 David Wright 21 George Russell 17 Mary Rome 24 Mary Currie 20
Birth for James? James KIRKPATRICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1838 Drumberg Farm, Torthorwald, Dumfries, Scotland Death: 02 NOV 1896 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Father: Andrew KIRKPATRICK Mother: Jean AFFLECK Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
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Catherine
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7 Jan 2010 08:53 |
Marriage search on Scotlands People:-
Male Surname: Lockerbie Male Forename: John Female Surname: Kirkpatrick Female Forename: Mary Jane Year Range: 1885 County: Dumfries District: Torthorwald
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Catherine
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7 Jan 2010 08:40 |
Katty, Mary Jane and John can't have married in 1856, she wasn't born until 1866, are you sure it wasn't 1886!
Mary Jane - 1901 with Charles:- Name: Mary L Kilpatrick Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : Charles Gender: Female Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire Registration Number: 453 Registration district: St Andrews and St Leonards Civil parish: St Andrews and St Leonards Town: St Andrews County: Fife Address: 6 Peddie Buildings Occupation: Letterpress Wife ED: 2 Household schedule number: 72 Line: 2 Roll: CSSCT1901_145
1891 married to John Lockerbie - with son William:- Name: Mary J Lockerbie Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : John Gender: Female Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire Registration Number: 821 Registration district: Dumfries Civil parish: Dumfries Town: Dumfries County: Dumfriesshire Address: 37 Irish St ED: 16 Household schedule number: 114 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1891_393 Household Members: Name Age John Lockerbie 34 born: Dumfries, Dumfriesshire Mary J Lockerbie 29 William Lockerbie 1 born: Dumfries, Dumfriesshire Robert Jardine 40 - Lodger
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7 Jan 2010 02:27 |
Guys, this is so awesome. I completely hadn't expected a response anything like this. Thank you all so much.
The information on the Lockerbie connection was so much more than I had dreamt of being available. I must confess... wet eyes time when I saw that.
I knew there was a second marriage somewhere back and the Kilpatrick surname came in thru' a StepFather. It was to retain the memory of the Lockerbie name that my Mum chose it as middle names for my me and my brother.
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Katty1
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6 Jan 2010 23:16 |
Hi
There is also a tree on Ancestory.com which has Charles and Ann (Watson) in it.
It has ancestors upwards for both Charles and Ann.
Worth taking a look.
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Katty1
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6 Jan 2010 23:10 |
Hi
Sorry
Had to go and help my daughter with her study work.
William was from Mary Jane's 1st marriage to John Lockerbie - they were married in 1885.
Mary Jane and Charles were married in 1899, Portobello, Edinburgh.
William was born on 19 July 1889 @ 1:30am, in which looks like Inch St, Dumfries.
Have had spare credits so looked them up.
Tina
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6 Jan 2010 22:29 |
1881 Scotland Census about Chareles Kilpatrick Name: Chareles Kilpatrick Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: An Gender: Male Where born: Dunfermline, Fifeshire Registration Number: 468 Registration district: Tillicoultry Civil parish: Tillicoultry Town: Tillicoultry County: Clackmannanshire Address: 12 Ochil St Occupation: Scholar ED: 3 Household schedule number: 13 Line: 10 Roll: cssct1881_130 Household Members: Name Age John Kilpatrick 45 An Kilpatrick 45 Katy Kilpatrick 14 Chareles Kilpatrick 10 George Duncan 2 Henry Murray 1 Catherin Watson 82
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Catherine
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6 Jan 2010 22:28 |
If that's Charles in 1891, then where was son William?
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6 Jan 2010 22:27 |
1871 Scotland Census about Charles Kilpatrick Name: Charles Kilpatrick Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Dunfermline, Fife Registration Number: 424/1 Registration district: Dunfermline Burgh Civil parish: St Andrews County: Fife Address: Campbell St ED: 3 Household schedule number: 170 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1871_72 Household Members: Name Age John Kilpatrick 35 Ann Kilpatrick 35 John Kilpatrick 6 Catherine Kilpatrick 4 Charles Kilpatrick 1
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Catherine
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6 Jan 2010 22:26 |
Ah! so he was hiding under the name of Andrew in 1901! No wounder I couldn't see him. Well done Katty!
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6 Jan 2010 22:25 |
1891 Scotland Census about Charles Kilpatrick Name: Charles Kilpatrick Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Dunfermline, Fife Registration Number: 442 Registration district: Kirkcaldy and Abbotshall Civil parish: Kirkcaldy and Abbotshall County: Fife Address: 30 Corran St Occupation: Printer Cettapress ED: 6 Household schedule number: 210 Line: 21 Roll: CSSCT1891_135 Household Members: Name Age Andrew F Buchannan 26 Agnes Buchannan 26 Janett R Buchannan 2 Charles Kilpatrick 21
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6 Jan 2010 22:24 |
Mary L Kilpatrick Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : Charles Gender: Female Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire
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6 Jan 2010 22:22 |
1901 Scotland Census about Charles Kilpatrick Name: Charles Kilpatrick Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Mary L Gender: Male Where born: Dunfermline, Fifeshire Registration Number: 453 Registration district: St Andrews and St Leonards Civil parish: St Andrews and St Leonards Town: St Andrews County: Fife Address: 6 Peddie Buildings Occupation: Letterpress Machineman
Household Members: Name Age Charles Kilpatrick 30 Mary L Kilpatrick 35 William Kilpatrick 11 Elizabeth W H Kilpatrick 8 Andrew Kilpatrick 5 Jane C Hutton 69
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Katty1
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6 Jan 2010 22:21 |
Marriage for John's parents:
1899 KILPATRICK CHARLES
KIRKPATRICK MARY JANE
PORTOBELLO EDINBURGH/MIDLOTHIAN
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Katty1
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6 Jan 2010 22:17 |
John lived at 8 Paisley Road, Renfrew and Catherine at 36 Ferguson Ave, Renfrew before they got married.
Witness's to marriage were;
James R Pollock, 26 Paisley Rd, Renfrew
Annie Thorpe Cook, 5 Tennant St, Renfrew
They were married by David Young, Minister of Renfrew Parish Church
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Catherine
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6 Jan 2010 22:14 |
Thanks Katty I've just edited my post hoping someone could do a look up, so thanks for that! Catherine
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Katty1
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6 Jan 2010 22:12 |
Hi John
John and Catherine Bainbridge was married 20 March 1829, 36 Freguson Ave, Renfrew.
John, 33 years old was a Grocers Manager and was a Widower when he married Catherine.
His father was Charles Kilpatrick, Printers Foreman and mother was Mary Jane Kirkpatrick.....both were still living when John and Catherine married.
Catherine was 30 years old and she was a shop assistant.
Her parents were Charles Bainbridge, Machineman and mother was Mary Cameron Greenhill. Both were still alive.
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Katty1
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6 Jan 2010 22:00 |
Hi John
His mother and Fathers name will be on his marriage or death certs.
Tina
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John
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6 Jan 2010 21:51 |
lol... I thought maybe I'd imagined it... but I'm smart... I still had your info on 'go back a page' and managed to copy & paste it.
You did give me a start, with my Grandmother's name being... Yikes!
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