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John Andrew Kilpatrick c. 1896, Scotland

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Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jan 2010 09:18

Possible 1851 for James:-

Name: James Kirkpatrick
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfries
Parish Number: 850
Civil parish: Torthorwald
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Drumbreg
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 4
Page: 1 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 2
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1851_210
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Kirkpatrick 56 born: Torthorwald, Dumfries
Occupation: Farmes Of 85 Acres (employing 4 Labourers 1 In Door & 3 Out)
Jane Kirkpatrick 46 born: Ruthwell, Dumfries
David Kirkpatrick 17 born: Torthorwald, Dumfries
Margaret Kirkpatrick 13
James Kirkpatrick 11
Mary Kirkpatrick 9
John Glendenning 16
James Anderson 27
Sarah Wilson 34
Mary Richardson 18


Possible marriage:-
ANDREW KIRKPATRICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 03 DEC 1832 Torthorwald, Dumfries, Scotland
Spouse: JEAN AFFLECK


Possible:-
Andrew KIRKPATRICK
Male
Event(s):
Birth: About 1795
Christening:
Death: 07 JAN 1860 Drumberg Farm, Torthorwald, Dumfries, Scotland
Burial:
Parents:
Father: David KIRKPATRICK
Mother: Margaret LORRAIN

Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jan 2010 08:59

1881
Name: Mary Jane Kirkpatrick
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 850
Registration district: Torthorwald
Civil parish: Torthorwald
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Redhills Farm
Occupation: Farmer'S Daughter
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 4
Roll: cssct1881_327
Household Members:
Name Age
James Kirkpatrick 41 born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire
Occupation: Farmer (Of 525 Acres, - Of Which 360 Arable - Employing 7 Men, 7 Women & 4 Boys)
Elizabeth Kirkpatrick 40 born: Dumfries, Dumfriesshire
James Kirkpatrick 20 All children born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire
Mary Jane Kirkpatrick 19
Andrew Kirkpatrick 17
Margaret Kirkpatrick 15
Elizabeth Kirkpatrick 13
Ellen Kirkpatrick 11
Francis N Kirkpatrick 10
Agnes K Kirkpatrick 8
Williammina N Kirkpatrick 6
David Kirkpatrick 4
Annie W Kirkpatrick 2
John C Wells 19
John Coupland 19
Jane J Rae 19
Margaret Kerr 26


1871
Name: Mary S Kirkpatrick
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Gender: Female
Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfrieshire
Registration Number: 850
Registration district: Torthorwald
Civil parish: Torthorwald
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Redhills Farm House
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 3
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1871_185
Household Members:
Name Age
James Kirkpatrick 31- born: Torthorwald, Dumfrieshire
Occupation: Farmer Of 200 Acres Of Which 140 Arable Employing 4 Labourer
Elizabeth W Kirkpatrick 30 - born: Dumfries, Dumfrieshire
James Kirkpatrick 10
Mary S Kirkpatrick 9
Andrew Kirkpatrick 7
Margaret Kirkpatrick 5
Elizabeth Kirkpatrick 3
Ellen Kirkpatrick 1
Kirkpatrick under 1 mo
Eliza Swan 25
James Carruthers 25
Thomas Mitchell 18
James Graham 16
Isabella Wallace 26
Sarah Kerr 21
Elizabeth Forguson 15


Possible marriage for James and Elizabeth:-
JAMES KIRKPATRICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 07 NOV 1859 Torthorwald, Dumfries, Scotland
Spouse: ELIZABETH W. HENDERSON


1861
Name: James Kirkpatrick
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 850
Registration district: Torthorwald
Civil parish: Torthorwald
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Redhills
Occupation: Farmer Of 200 Acres
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 15
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1861_145
Household Members:
Name Age
James Kirkpatrick 21
Elizabeth Kirkpatrick 20 born: Dumfries, Dumfriesshire
James Kirkpatrick 10 Mo
William Docherty 24
David Wright 21
George Russell 17
Mary Rome 24
Mary Currie 20


Birth for James?
James KIRKPATRICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1838 Drumberg Farm, Torthorwald, Dumfries, Scotland
Death: 02 NOV 1896 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: Andrew KIRKPATRICK
Mother: Jean AFFLECK
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jan 2010 08:53

Marriage search on Scotlands People:-

Male Surname: Lockerbie
Male Forename: John
Female Surname: Kirkpatrick
Female Forename: Mary Jane
Year Range: 1885
County: Dumfries
District: Torthorwald

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Jan 2010 08:40

Katty, Mary Jane and John can't have married in 1856, she wasn't born until 1866, are you sure it wasn't 1886!

Mary Jane - 1901 with Charles:-
Name: Mary L Kilpatrick
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 453
Registration district: St Andrews and St Leonards
Civil parish: St Andrews and St Leonards
Town: St Andrews
County: Fife
Address: 6 Peddie Buildings
Occupation: Letterpress Wife
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 72
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1901_145


1891 married to John Lockerbie - with son William:-
Name: Mary J Lockerbie
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : John
Gender: Female
Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 821
Registration district: Dumfries
Civil parish: Dumfries
Town: Dumfries
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: 37 Irish St
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 114
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1891_393
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lockerbie 34 born: Dumfries, Dumfriesshire
Mary J Lockerbie 29
William Lockerbie 1 born: Dumfries, Dumfriesshire
Robert Jardine 40 - Lodger

John

John Report 7 Jan 2010 02:27

Guys, this is so awesome. I completely hadn't expected a response anything like this. Thank you all so much.

The information on the Lockerbie connection was so much more than I had dreamt of being available. I must confess... wet eyes time when I saw that.

I knew there was a second marriage somewhere back and the Kilpatrick surname came in thru' a StepFather. It was to retain the memory of the Lockerbie name that my Mum chose it as middle names for my me and my brother.

Katty1

Katty1 Report 6 Jan 2010 23:16

Hi

There is also a tree on Ancestory.com which has Charles and Ann (Watson) in it.

It has ancestors upwards for both Charles and Ann.

Worth taking a look.

Katty1

Katty1 Report 6 Jan 2010 23:10

Hi

Sorry

Had to go and help my daughter with her study work.

William was from Mary Jane's 1st marriage to John Lockerbie - they were married in 1885.

Mary Jane and Charles were married in 1899, Portobello, Edinburgh.

William was born on 19 July 1889 @ 1:30am, in which looks like Inch St, Dumfries.

Have had spare credits so looked them up.

Tina

Katty1

Katty1 Report 6 Jan 2010 22:29


1881 Scotland Census
about Chareles Kilpatrick
Name: Chareles Kilpatrick
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: An
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunfermline, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 468
Registration district: Tillicoultry
Civil parish: Tillicoultry
Town: Tillicoultry
County: Clackmannanshire
Address: 12 Ochil St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 13
Line: 10
Roll: cssct1881_130
Household Members:
Name Age
John Kilpatrick 45
An Kilpatrick 45
Katy Kilpatrick 14
Chareles Kilpatrick 10
George Duncan 2
Henry Murray 1
Catherin Watson 82

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Jan 2010 22:28

If that's Charles in 1891, then where was son William?

Katty1

Katty1 Report 6 Jan 2010 22:27


1871 Scotland Census
about Charles Kilpatrick
Name: Charles Kilpatrick
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunfermline, Fife
Registration Number: 424/1
Registration district: Dunfermline Burgh
Civil parish: St Andrews
County: Fife
Address: Campbell St
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 170
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1871_72
Household Members:
Name Age
John Kilpatrick 35
Ann Kilpatrick 35
John Kilpatrick 6
Catherine Kilpatrick 4
Charles Kilpatrick 1

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Jan 2010 22:26

Ah! so he was hiding under the name of Andrew in 1901! No wounder I couldn't see him.
Well done Katty!

Katty1

Katty1 Report 6 Jan 2010 22:25


1891 Scotland Census
about Charles Kilpatrick
Name: Charles Kilpatrick
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunfermline, Fife
Registration Number: 442
Registration district: Kirkcaldy and Abbotshall
Civil parish: Kirkcaldy and Abbotshall
County: Fife
Address: 30 Corran St
Occupation: Printer Cettapress
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 210
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1891_135
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew F Buchannan 26
Agnes Buchannan 26
Janett R Buchannan 2
Charles Kilpatrick 21

Katty1

Katty1 Report 6 Jan 2010 22:24

Mary L Kilpatrick
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire

Katty1

Katty1 Report 6 Jan 2010 22:22


1901 Scotland Census
about Charles Kilpatrick
Name: Charles Kilpatrick
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary L
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunfermline, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 453
Registration district: St Andrews and St Leonards
Civil parish: St Andrews and St Leonards
Town: St Andrews
County: Fife
Address: 6 Peddie Buildings
Occupation: Letterpress Machineman


Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Kilpatrick 30
Mary L Kilpatrick 35
William Kilpatrick 11
Elizabeth W H Kilpatrick 8
Andrew Kilpatrick 5
Jane C Hutton 69

Katty1

Katty1 Report 6 Jan 2010 22:21

Marriage for John's parents:

1899 KILPATRICK CHARLES

KIRKPATRICK MARY JANE

PORTOBELLO EDINBURGH/MIDLOTHIAN

Katty1

Katty1 Report 6 Jan 2010 22:17

John lived at 8 Paisley Road, Renfrew and Catherine at 36 Ferguson Ave, Renfrew before they got married.

Witness's to marriage were;

James R Pollock, 26 Paisley Rd, Renfrew

Annie Thorpe Cook, 5 Tennant St, Renfrew

They were married by David Young, Minister of Renfrew Parish Church

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Jan 2010 22:14

Thanks Katty I've just edited my post hoping someone could do a look up, so thanks for that!
Catherine

Katty1

Katty1 Report 6 Jan 2010 22:12

Hi John

John and Catherine Bainbridge was married 20 March 1829, 36 Freguson Ave, Renfrew.

John, 33 years old was a Grocers Manager and was a Widower when he married Catherine.

His father was Charles Kilpatrick, Printers Foreman and mother was Mary Jane Kirkpatrick.....both were still living when John and Catherine married.

Catherine was 30 years old and she was a shop assistant.

Her parents were Charles Bainbridge, Machineman and mother was Mary Cameron Greenhill. Both were still alive.

Katty1

Katty1 Report 6 Jan 2010 22:00

Hi John

His mother and Fathers name will be on his marriage or death certs.

Tina

John

John Report 6 Jan 2010 21:51

lol... I thought maybe I'd imagined it... but I'm smart... I still had your info on 'go back a page' and managed to copy & paste it.

You did give me a start, with my Grandmother's name being... Yikes!