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i have come across a harry as well from newton green suffolk it seems strange that they both from suffolk and both gas workers and married to a mary

Your grandfather Henry James is listed as James on the 1911 at a guess.

Forgive my geography but how close are Newton Green and sudbury?

I would agree with Astra. I have just checked to see if he was in hospital or with a grandparent but no trace.

not sure how far apart they are i will check

Looking at the map they are probably about 20-25 miles apart. Not my strong point though

so maybe descended from a common line then. hold for now though.

Mary Ann has her birthplace as Plumstead Woolwich and Barking Essex.

Still searching for marriage.

1871 census - household transcription
Person: FROST, Harry
Address: Leaven Heath, Assington
Registration District:
Sudbury
FROST, Joseph Head M 32 1839 Suffolk VIEW
FROST, Mary A Wife F 30 1841 Suffolk VIEW
FROST, Mary A Daughter F 16 1855 Suffolk VIEW
FROST, John Son M 8 1863 Suffolk VIEW
FROST, Harry Son M 5 1866 Suffolk VIEW
FROST, Francis Daughter F 0 1871 Suffolk

we seem too think essex but it seems strange that plumstead comes up which is about 4 miles away i have emailed sudbury council too see if i can obtain more info and thanks too you all for your help

If the 1871 was the right one I think I have Joseph in hospital in 1881


1881 census - household transcription
Person: FROST, Joseph
Address: (Poplar Hospital), East India Dk Rd, Bromley

FROST, Joseph Patient Married M 40 1841 General Labourer
Assington
Suffolk

1881 census - household transcription
Person: FROST, Frances
Address: 4, Church Path, Barking
FROST, Mary A Wife Head Married F 33 1848
Nayland
Suffolk VIEW
FROST, Harry Son Single M 17 1864 Labourer
Assingdon
Suffolk VIEW
FROST, Frances Daughter Single F 12 1869
Assingdon
Suffolk VIEW
FROST, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 7 1874
Assingdon
Suffolk VIEW
FROST, Kate Daughter Single F 4 1877
Elevenheath
Suffolk


This now places hennry in Barking shortly before his marriage.

i hope it is its my fathers wish too find out who his great grandfater is i am now waiting on photos from him too add to my tree

There is this marriage

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
Brett Henry Romford 4a 312
COX Henry Romford 4a 312
Frost Harry Romford 4a 312
HAY Mary Ann Romford 4a 312
RUMBLE Emma Romford 4a 312

1891 census - household transcription
Person: FROST, Henry
Address: 51, Collerston Road, Greenwich

I think this should read Colliston Road

you are right on the address spelling and its funny i am just 30secs away from that road

Interesting

1881 census - household transcription
Person: HAY, Mary A
Address: 6, Linsdells Court, Barking

HAY, Ann Head Widow F 50 1831
Scotland VIEW
HAY, Christiana Daughter Single F 19 1862 Jute Worker
Plumstead ((Barking))
Kent VIEW
HAY, Jessica Daughter Single F 22 1859 Jute Worker
Scotland VIEW
HAY, Mary A Daughter Single F 17 1864 Jute Worker
Plumstead
Kent VIEW
HAY, Margaret Daughter Single F 15 1866 Jute Worker
Plumstead
Kent VIEW
HAY, James Son Single M 13 1868 Jute Worker
Plumstead
Kent VIEW
HAY, Jean Daughter Single F 8 1873
Plumstead
Kent

1871 census - household transcription
Person: HAY, Mary
Address: Cross Street, Plumstead
HAY, James Head M 43 1828 Scotland VIEW
HAY, Ann Wife F 41 1830 Scotland VIEW
HAY, Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1857 Scotland VIEW
HAY, Jessie Daughter F 11 1860 Scotland VIEW
HAY, John Son M 10 1861 Scotland VIEW
HAY, Christiana Daughter F 8 1863 Kent VIEW
HAY, Margaret Daughter F 4 1867 Kent VIEW
HAY, Mary Daughter F 6 1865 Kent VIEW
HAY, James Son M 3 1868 Kent

That is strange.

I work in Charlton in the opticians

must be charlton village i live in greenwich my great grandfather became director of the gas works in greenwich

Births Dec 1862 (>99%)
HAY Christiana Lewisham 1d 719



Births Jun 1864 (>99%)
HAY Mary Ann Lewisham 1d 736