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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Dec 2009 12:30

Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 21

Month: May

Year: 1785

Forename: Mary

Othernames:

Surname: Haggis

Fathers forenames: John

Fathers occupation: Caulker

Mothers forenames: Mary

Birth date:

Address: Ropemaker's Fields

Location of church: Limehouse

Parish: St Anne

Church address: Commercial Road

Entry No: 250

Source Ref: NX097/275

Transcriber Note:

Original Note : 22 days old

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Dec 2009 12:30

maybe connected?


Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 20

Month: September

Year: 1789

Forename: Susannah

Othernames:

Surname: Haggis

Fathers forenames: John

Fathers occupation: Caulker

Mothers forenames: Ann

Birth date:

Address:

Location of church: Limehouse

Parish: St Anne

Church address: Commercial Road

Entry No: 929

Source Ref: NX097/275

Transcriber Note:

Original Note : 21 days old


LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Dec 2009 12:25

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
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HEATH HAGGIS Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: MARY EYRES Family
Marriage: 13 AUG 1775 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England


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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Dec 2009 12:23

Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 10

Month: May

Year: 1763

Forename: Sarah

Othernames:

Surname: Haggis

Fathers forenames: Heath

Fathers occupation: Caulker

Mothers forenames: Mary

Birth date:

Address: Poplar

Location of church: Stepney

Parish: St Dunstan

Church address: Stepney High Street

Entry No:

Source Ref: X024/016

Transcriber Note:

Original Note : 2 Days Old

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Dec 2009 12:21

Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 21

Month: June

Year: 1761

Forename: Heath

Othernames:

Surname: Haggis

Fathers forenames: Heath

Fathers occupation: Caulker

Mothers forenames: Mary

Birth date:

Address: Poplar

Location of church: Stepney

Parish: St Dunstan

Church address: Stepney High Street

Entry No:

Source Ref: X024/016

Transcriber Note:

Original Note : 21 Days Old



Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 25

Month: March

Year: 1764

Forename: Heath

Othernames:

Surname: Haggis

Fathers forenames: Heath

Fathers occupation: Caulker

Mothers forenames: Mary

Birth date:

Address: Poplar

Location of church: Stepney

Parish: St Dunstan

Church address: Stepney High Street

Entry No:

Source Ref: X024/016

Transcriber Note:

Original Note : 25 Days Old

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Dec 2009 12:19

Aha

Heath's father and presumably short lived brother also called heath



1. HEATH HAGGIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 JUN 1761 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England

2. HEATH HAGGIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 MAR 1764 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England

3. ANNE LOWE HAGGIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 15 AUG 1759 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England

4. SARAH HAGGIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 MAY 1763 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England

5. BARTHOLOMEW HAGGIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 APR 1766 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Dec 2009 12:17

probably a different generation

Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 14

Month: July

Year: 1822

Forename: Eliza

Othernames:

Surname: Haggis

Fathers forenames: Thomas

Fathers occupation: Mariner

Mothers forenames: Elizabeth

Birth date: 14/04/1821

Address: Limehouse

Location of church: Limehouse

Parish: St Anne

Church address: Commercial Road

Entry No: 222

Source Ref: X097/275

Transcriber Note:

Original Note :



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Record source: Docklands Ancestors

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Dec 2009 12:16

Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 06

Month: April

Year: 1766

Forename: Bartholomew

Othernames:

Surname: Haggis

Fathers forenames: Heath

Fathers occupation: Caulker

Mothers forenames: Mary

Birth date:

Address: Poplar

Location of church: Stepney

Parish: St Dunstan

Church address: Stepney High Street

Entry No:

Source Ref: X024/016

Transcriber Note:

Original Note : 47 Days Old

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Dec 2009 12:14

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
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ANNE LOWE HAGGIS Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 15 AUG 1759 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: HEATH HAGGIS Family
Mother: MARY




C055761

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Dec 2009 12:09

Hi Auntie

Just managed to get some of those Dockland records on one screen, I have not followed the whole thing and cannot spend long onit. I will post some possibles for you to sort.


This is a shipbuilding related occupation

Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 15

Month: August

Year: 1759

Forename: Anne

Othernames: Lowe

Surname: Haggis

Fathers forenames: Heath

Fathers occupation: Caulker

Mothers forenames: Mary

Birth date:

Address: Poplar

Location of church: Stepney

Parish: St Dunstan

Church address: Stepney High Street

Entry No:

Source Ref: X024/016

Transcriber Note:

Original Note : 34 Days Old

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Dec 2009 11:57

Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 20

Month: 9

Year: 1789

Forename: Thomas

Othernames: Heath

Surname: Haggis

Fathers forenames: Heath

Fathers occupation: Shipw't

Mothers forenames: Eliz'th

Birth date:

Address: Poplar

Location of church: Stepney

Parish: St Dunstan

Church address: High Street

Entry No: 7656

Source Ref: X097/286

Transcriber Note:

Original Note : 28 days old

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 22 Dec 2009 09:56

Transferred from GT Thread
My Query

On Ancestry. London Marriages and Banns 1754-1921 Tower Hamlets. Marriage between Eliza Haggis and George Porle (his name is actually Poole). Date of marriage 28 Nov 1842. Eliza's father's name is Thomas Heath Haggis. George's father's name is Edward.

Trade or Profession of Thomas is written as Ropemaker.
Trade of Profession of Edward is written as Matchmaker. (Wonder about that, shades of Fidler on the Roof).

What is the Occupation, trade etc for George Poole.

Thank you.



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Susan10146857 Today at 06:30 Request review
Joiner

confirmed also by the 1851 census ( Limehouse )...which says he was a Ships Joiner.

His Fathers occupation could be Watchmaker?

Edit.....according to the baptism ( ancestry ) of Eliza in 1822 Thomas was a mariner.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1558&iid=31280_199067-00443&fn=Eliza&ln=Haggis&st=r&ssrc=&pid=5078049&ftm=1

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AuntySherlock Today at 09:53 Request review
Thank you for that Susan. I could not work out what the word was. I did think about watchmaker for Edward's occupation. Couldn't find another "W" in the same handwriting for comparison.

Have Thomas as Mariner, interesting about the Ropemaker bit. Another of the extended family also has the occupation of ropemaker.

The London Docklands Parish Records and info about Lightermen and Watermen are associated with info about these families.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 21 Dec 2009 04:38

So Elizabeth Halbart is wife of Heath Haggis. They married in 1788 and Thomas Heath Haggis was born in 1789.

Elizabeth Haggis nee Halbart married Matthew Pemberton in 1804.
Need death of Heath Haggis.

Name: Heath Haggis
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Habbart (it is Halbart)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Sep 1788
Parish: Saint Mary, Whitechapel
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets

And guess who the witness was to the marriage: Matthew Pemberton.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 21 Dec 2009 04:27

Confirmation. If Eliza Haggis is the sister of Hannah Elizabeth then the marriage of Eliza shows her father as Thomas Heath Hagis. Therefore Thos Heath Haggis married Elizabeth Brandish at St Geo in the East 1814.

So the Docklands Parish Register shows Thomas Heath Haggis as being born to Heath haggis and Elizabeth is the correct entry for the Thomas Haggis who fathered Hannah Elizabeth and Eliza Haggis.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 21 Dec 2009 04:23

Heath Haggis Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: Elizabeth Halbart Family
Marriage: 30 SEP 1788 St Mary'S, Whitechapel, London, England

Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 20 Dec 2009 21:51

Criminal Registers.

Name: Thomas Haggis
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1787
Date of Trial: 8 Jul 1803
Trial Year: 1803
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Transportation
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

If I am reading the image correctly his sentence was commuted to army service. The quality of the image is very poor. If that was the case could he have served in the navy.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 20 Dec 2009 21:29

Hi Sylvia, Nope that is a typo. She was born in 1822. Sorry my mistake. I believe there was another child who died just after birth in 1812. There is a burial registered with no first name.

Have been delving into the Dockland Parish registers. Very frustrating because you have to click on each Parish separately and it takes a long time.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 20 Dec 2009 21:24

Detailed Search Results for the surname haggis in the parish register of St Dunstan Stepney 1770 to 1798.

Details for record 1 of 1
Entry No: 7656 Note: 28 days old
Birth Date: Baptism Date: 20/09/1789
First name: Thomas Heath Father: Heath
Mother: Eliz'th Surname: Haggis
Address: Poplar Occupation: Shipw't
Source Ref: X097/286

This is from the Docklands Parish Register. So Thomas Heath Haggis father's name was Heath (not James). Thomas was born in August 1789.


SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 Dec 2009 21:09

?????????????


from familysearch

THOS. HAGGES Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth: 30 SEP 1790

Christening: 21 NOV 1790 Saint George In The East, Stepney, London, England

Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JAMES HAGGES Family
Mother: ELIZTH.

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C055782 1779 - 1794 0578788 Film 6902328 Film
C055782 1794 - 1804 0578789 Film NONE
C055782 1805 - 1810 0578790 Film NONE




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 Dec 2009 21:06

AuntyS


is this correct?


In the London England Births and baptisms 1813-1906 I have a birth for Anna Eliza Haggis 24 Apr 1818. Father Thomas Haggis, mother Eliza. The date of birth shows on the entry for the baptism on 11 May 1818 at St Dunstan and All Saints, Tower Hamlets.

If It is her birth (1818) this would make her 19 when she married.

There is also another child Eliza Haggis. Born to Thomas and Elizabeth Haggis. Baptism record shows date of birth 14 Apr 1882 and baptism 14 Jul 1882. St Anne Limehouse. Is this her sister.




Was Eliza Haggis really born 1882??


If so ........................ she cannot possibly be Hannah/Anna's sister




or am I reading something wrong here? Wouldn't be the first time!!!




sylvia