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Hi Paul, I saw that too. I am not certain is that means she was "married" as opposed to being "single" or if she actually had a husband. Does the census status say "widow" or "widower" if that is the case.

We really need to expand Edward's family. I am going back to my old thread to see if there is anything there.

Oh yes there is an old thread but it is based around the Kimberley/Carter families with a few Greens chucked in for entertainment.

1851 census - household transcription
Person: BASINGER, Henry
Address: 9, Willow Row, Saint Anne Limehouse, Tower Hamlets
BASINGER, Thomas Head Married M 44 1807 Painter
Bethnal Green
Middlesex VIEW
BASINGER, Diana Wife Married F 39 1812
Kent Road
Surrey VIEW
BASINGER, Thomas Son M 14 1837 Errand Boy
Limehouse
Middlesex VIEW
BASINGER, Henry Son M 11 1840 Scholar
Limehouse
Middlesex VIEW
BASINGER, Louisa Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar
Limehouse
Middlesex VIEW
BASINGER, Anne Daughter F 4 1847
Limehouse
Middlesex VIEW
BASINGER, William Son M 0 (1 MOS) 1851
Limehouse
Middlesex


Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 03

Month: July

Year: 1831

Forename: James

Othernames: Thomas Samuel

Surname: Basenger

Fathers forenames: Thomas Edward George

Fathers occupation: Oilman

Mothers forenames: Diana

Birth date: 14/06/1831

Address: Limehouse

Location of church: Limehouse

Parish: St Anne

Church address: Commercial Road

Entry No: 1016

Source Ref: X097/275



Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 31

Month: July

Year: 1836

Forename: Thomas

Othernames: Samuel

Surname: Basinger

Fathers forenames: Thomas Edward George

Fathers occupation: Oilman

Mothers forenames: Diana

Birth date: 03/07/1836

Address: Limehouse

Location of church: Limehouse

Parish: St Anne

Church address: Commercial Road

Entry No: 1492

Source Ref: X069/001



Records Collection - baptism
Day: 21

Month: September

Year: 1832

Forename: Mary

Othernames: Ann

Surname: Bassinger

Fathers forenames: Thomas

Fathers occupation: Oilman

Mothers forenames: Diana

Birth date: 29/08/1832

Address: Limehouse

Location of church: Limehouse

Parish: St Anne

Church address: Commercial Road

Entry No: 1495

Source Ref: X097/275

Ooops - Charles Green was son of Henry Green, can't trust hunches. The name may be a coincidence or they are more distantly related.

As I said, I have a few snippets I've since found, and can't quite link yet but the birth of Ed Green, 1814 has parents Wm and Charlotte - no proof it is him.
I need to confirm Charles parents.

The 1861 Census for Hannah Green said she was the Head, but married - so Charles is still alive somewhere???

Hi There LK, Yes it is just morning time over here. I have not used family tree maker. I just have the normal Ancestry tree and the GR tree.

I'll have a look and see what I can work out. It might make it easier than hand writing it all then having to convert it to computer.

Edit: Had a play and a think. I can't face starting this up again. What I will do is put the info into my tree and then make the tree public. It goes against my better judgement however my tree is so small I don't think anyone will gain very much from it. I understand that it takes a while for others to be able to view the tree. I'll just set the process in motion and monitor when you lot are able to see what we have done. This might have to wait for a while because I go away for a few days soon. Not certain whether I will have internet access where I am going. See what I can achieve in the next couple of days.

Are you still up Auntie?
Some of us have to work you know.I was going to suggest trying to fit it ito a mini tree on my family treemaker to make it easier to see.

How on earth did you connect William and Charlotte. I knew William was Edwards father from Edward's marriage certificate. I have searched and searched for a common denominator between Edward and Charles but it just wouldn't fall into place. Now there is a spouse to link the family it will make research easier.

Also need to work out which Hannah Green died when and where. Mother Hannah or daughter Hannah who married James.

Still grappling with all the information about the Budd family from LadyKira. She is very right about the links with seafaring occupations for the family. The info on the Docklands Ancestors web site makes fascinating reading.

I am still interested in how Matthew Pemberton fits into all of this. And I also have another mystery about children of James Carter and Hannah Maria Green. I know who they are but need to do more indepth researching about connections with Australia.

You've all made great progress since I last looked. I have entered it on my computer program and it has all fallen into place.
A few snippets I've since found, but can't quite link yet.

John Haggis of Three Colt St (same street as BUDD)
buried 8 Oct 1811, St Anne Limehouse age 69

Hannah Green of St Geo in the East
died 20 Dec 1882 age 70
body to School of Anatomy

Hannah Green of Ratcliff
8 Dec 1898 aged 83 buried Ilford
Stepney Union, Bromley Workhouse

Charles Richard Green
died Shadwell, buried St Dunstan
21 Dec 1855 aged 42

Yes Aunty, I'm coming around to your thinking.
Edward Hunt Green bapt 13 Nov 1814, Chelsea MDX
to Wm Green, gardiner, Charles St and Charlotte.
With Hannah Haggis marrying Edward and Charles Green and having 3 daughters named Charlotte, it fits that Ed and Chas Green were PROBABLY sons of Wm and Charlotte.

Paul

CHARLES GREEN Pedigree
Male Family

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Marriages:
Spouse: HANNAH GREEN OR HAGGIS Family
Marriage: 13 MAR 1853 Saint Thomas, Stepney, London, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

1851 census has Edward, Hannah and daughters Hannah, Martha and Elizabeth.

1861 census has (NO Edward), (No Charles), Mother Hannah, Martha and Henry Basinger, Ann and Charlotte.

So Edward is dead, died 1852
when did Charlies die, Married 1853 gone 1861.
Hannah daughter has married James Carter,
Martha Green and Henry Bassinger are married,
Elizabeth married Edward Death,
Ann and Charlotte are Mother hannah and Charles Green's daughters.


Note: I am not ignoring the Budd family. They will flow on from here when I have this lot in their correct possies.

Hannah Elizabeth haggis married Edward Green in 1837. She became Hannah Green. Hannah Green married Charles Green in 1853.

Name of father of HE Haggis was Thomas Heath Haggis.
Name of father of Hannah Green was Thomas Heath haggis.

Hannah Green is listed as widow on the record of marriage to Charles Green.

Edward Green died 1862. Hmm that can not be correct if wife Hannah remarried in 1853.

So who was Charles Green and when did Edward Green die.

Ah ha. This one is better Edward Green of Oak Lane St Anne Limehouse was buried on 29th August 1852.

Oak Lane is same address for Hannah Green when she married Charles Green.

Now if Edward Green died in 1852, Charlotte Rosetta Green can not be his daughter.. Charlotte was born in 1857. Charlotte's mother was Hannah Elizabeth Haggis/Green/Green and her father was Charles Green. (Hannah Haggis's second husband).

Is this making any sense.

Oh Damn I must have missed you by about... oh well never mind. Yes and it now looks like I have two or more pages of info to scroll through.

You do realize that a some of those records (and I mean just a few) are on this thread. Just the earlier ones.

I have not been through all the details and you know I have to sit down and nut out the tree on paper.

Did I read the original image of the marriage correctly. Must go back and see who Ann Green is connected to. I need to go and check out a few things. I can spend a couple of hours on this now.

Thank you for your reasearch. I do wish they hadn't named all their children the same. Let me look for a while and I'll be back.

Edit. I have copied and pasted the info to file. There are only 12 pages of details to go through. Only 12!!!

I have just had a browse through the names and checked them against the tree and the records on line.

I am completely in the mire. The names Green, Bassenger and Haggis are appearing. The families just do not match up. I do not have Charles as a father and I do not have an Ann Henrietta Green born in 1855.

They have to be related to Edward Green. And that is just a supposition. I keep worrying that I have all these people mixed up so I need to take it step by step to sort out who fits with whom.

Worry, worry, worry, mutter, mutter!!

are you up yet woman

1871 census - household transcription
Person: BUDD, Charles
Address: Abingdon Court, Bethnal Green

BUDD, Charles Head M 26 1845 Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Ann Wife F 27 1844 Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Barden Son M 4 1867 Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Henry Son M 2 1869 Middlesex



1881 census - household transcription
Person: BUDD, Charles R
Address: 37, Driffield Rd, Bow Aka St Mary Stratford-Le-Bow



BUDD, Charles R Head Married M 36 1845 Foreman Timbers Merchts.
Lower Shadwell VIEW
BUDD, Amelia Wife Married F 36 1845 Foremans Wife
Bethnal Green
Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Basden Son Single M 14 1867 (?)
Bethnal Green
Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Henry Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar
Bethnal Green
Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Ellen Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Bethnal Green
Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Alfred Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Bethnal Green
Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Grace Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Bethnal Green
Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Charles Son Single M 2 1879
North Bow
Essex

Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
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Budd Charles Robert Bethnal Green 1c 723
Taylor Ann Margaret Bethnal Gn 1c 723

Marriages Sep 1862 (>99%)
Budd Maria Elizabeth Mile End 1c 1051
Cook Sophia Mile End 1c 1051
Cory Robert Mile End 1c 1051
Webb William Mile End 1c 1051

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1871 census - household transcription
Person: CRAWLEY, Emma
Address: New North Road, Shoreditch
CRAWLEY, John Head M 50 1821 Hertfordshire VIEW
CRAWLEY, Emma Wife F 32 1839 Middlesex VIEW
CRAWLEY, Clara Emly Daughter F 20 1851 Hertfordshire VIEW
CRAWLEY, Alfred John Son M 4 1867 Hertfordshire VIEW
CRAWLEY, Thomas Son M 2 1869 Middlesex VIEW
CRAWLEY, Florence Mary Daughter F 0 1871 Middlesex VIEW
JEWEL, Mary Ann Servant F 14 1857 Middlesex

Marriages Sep 1862 (>99%)
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Budd Emma Ann Mile End 1c 1052
Crawley John Mile End 1c 1052
Mercer William Mile End 1c 1052
Willmer Mary Ann Mile End 1c 1052

1861 census - household transcription
Person: BUDD, Emma
Address: 24, Butcher Row, Stepney

BUDD, Maria E Lodger Unmarried F 23 1838 Tailoress
Wapping
Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Emma Lodger Unmarried F 19 1842 Tailoress
Wapping
Middlesex

Births Dec 1837 (>99%)
Budd Maria Elizabeth Stepney 2 317

Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 07

Month: January

Year: 1838

Forename: Maria

Othernames: Elizabeth

Surname: Budd

Fathers forenames: Charles David

Fathers occupation: Ship Smith

Mothers forenames: Mary Ann

Birth date: 04/11/1837

Address: Limehouse

Location of church: Limehouse

Parish: St Anne

Church address: Commercial Road

Entry No: 283

Source Ref: X069/001




Births Dec 1841 (>99%)
Budd Emma Ann Stepney 2 469


Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 28

Month: November

Year: 1841

Forename: Emma

Othernames: Ann

Surname: Budd

Fathers forenames: Charles David

Fathers occupation: Ship Smith

Mothers forenames: Mary Ann

Birth date: 29/09/1841

Address: Limehouse

Location of church: Limehouse

Parish: St Anne

Church address: Commercial Road

Entry No: 2119

Source Ref: X069/001



Births Dec 1843 (>99%)
BUDD Charles Robert Stepney 2 508


Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 24

Month: December

Year: 1843

Forename: Charles

Othernames: Robert

Surname: Budd

Fathers forenames: Charles David

Fathers occupation: Shipsmith

Mothers forenames: Mary Ann

Birth date: 06/11/1843

Address: Shadwell

Location of church: Limehouse

Parish: St Anne

Church address: Commercial Road

Entry No: 657

Source Ref: X069/001




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1841 census - household transcription
Person: BUDD, Maria
Address: Burn Street, St Anne Limehouse, Tower Hamlets
BUDD, William M 45 1796 Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Elizabeth F 60 1781 Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Maria F 3 1838 Middlesex VIEW
CLUTTERBUCK, John M 35 1806 Middlesex VIEW
CLUTTERBUCK, Betsy F 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
CLUTTERBUCK, John M 0 (4 months) 1841 Middlesex VIEW
CLUTTERBUCK, William M 0 (4 months) 1841 Middlesex