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Aunty's New GREEN Thread

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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 3 Jan 2010 14:42

interesting

Parish Records Collection - burial
First name(s): Charles Green

Last name: BASSENGER

Date of burial: 11 May 1944

Age at death: 77

Calculated year of birth: 1867

Place of burial: South Benfleet

Dedication: St Mary the Virgin

County: Essex

Notes:

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South Benfleet St Mary the Virgin:

Denomination: Anglican

Coverage: 1573 - 1960

Number of entries: 6,176

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Record source: National Burial Index

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 3 Jan 2010 14:37

as would this. right occupation but 9 years out in age

1891 census - household transcription
Person: BASSENGER, Elizabeth A
Address: 38, Malmesbury Road, West Ham

BASSENGER, Martha A Head Widow F 49 1842 Tailoress
Limehouse
London VIEW
BASSENGER, Hannah E Daughter Single F 27 1864 Tailoress
Limehouse
London VIEW
BASSENGER, Elizabeth A Daughter Single F 25 1866 Tailoress
Limehouse
London VIEW
BASSENGER, Charles Son Single M 24 1867 Tailor
Limehouse
London VIEW
BASSENGER, Annie H Daughter F 7 1884
King's Cross
London VIEW
LOCKERMANN, Madalena Boarder Single F 25 1866 Tailoress
Hanover
Germany Luderhausur

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 3 Jan 2010 14:34

this would fit in with your dates

1881 census - household transcription
Person: BASSENGER, Cha
Address: 89, Stainsby Rd, Limehouse


BUDD, James D Head Married M 29 1852 Lighterman
Limehouse
Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Charlotte Wife Married F 23 1858
Limehouse
Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, James D Son Single M 3 1878
Limehouse
Middlesex VIEW
BUDD, Cha Edwd Son Single M 1 1880
Limehouse
Middlesex VIEW
BLAKE, Geo Boarder Single M 27 1854 Ghterman
Poplar
Middlesex VIEW
BASSENGER, Henry Boarder Single M 19 1862 Housepainter
Limehouse
Middlesex VIEW
BASSENGER, Martha Lodger Head Married F 40 1841 Tailoress
Limehouse
Middlesex VIEW
BASSENGER, Elizh Lodger Daughter Single F 16 1865 Domestic Serv
Limehouse
Middlesex VIEW
BASSENGER, Cha Lodger Son Single M 14 1867 Errand Boy
Limehouse
Middlesex VIEW
GREEN, Hannah Lodger Widow F 62 1819 Tailoress
Poplar
Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 3 Jan 2010 14:26

I cannot find her on 1881 or 91

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 3 Jan 2010 14:03

Deaths Mar 1903 (>99%)

Carter Elizabeth Ann 25 Glanford B. 7a 420

right age but nowhere near last known address

but we do know he was a sailor and they may have travelled

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 3 Jan 2010 13:50

On your tree you have Elizabeth as 1864 with a child by a previous unknown man born 1883, This does not make sense if census is right,

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 3 Jan 2010 13:44



Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
Bassenger Elizabeth Ann W Ham 4a 239
CARTER Charles Edward W. Ham 4a 239


1901 census -
Address: 34, Clarence Road, West Ham
CARTER, Charles Head Married M 27 1874 Leading Seaman H M S
Sunderland
Durham
CARTER, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 24 1877 Tailoress
Limehouse
London

You do not have Elizabeths death yet

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 3 Jan 2010 11:16

Hi Ladykira, I have thought that constantly. Can I open my tree for you to view?? I will GedCom the stuff from Ancestry into my GR tree. That way you can see the connections. There is one problem with the tree which GR are working on to correct. I will explain it to you. Let me know if you are agreeable. It will take me about ten minutes to set it up for you.

Edited. OK It is done. It is best looked at by selecting a particular person. If you choose to view the whole tree. Martha Green and Henry Bassinger are not connected on the screen. If you select either of them to view all the other people fall into place.

I have to go to bed. I can't stay awake any longer. Catch you in about four or five hours time.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 3 Jan 2010 11:08

morning aunty

Can we please go back to Charles Edward Carter and work back from there to confirm what you know. It is possible we have the wrong green family. They are nearly as bad as smiths.

Paul

Paul Report 3 Jan 2010 10:52

Sorry, the bit I cannot connect is the Hannah Maria Green dau of Hannah Maria Green and George Arthur Green. I don't think they are related.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 3 Jan 2010 09:13

Looks like you'll have to paint the house. These questions have been here for hundreds of years another couple of days won't make much difference.

Hannah Maria Green 1839 is the daughter of Hannah Elizabeth Haggis and Edward Green. Hannah Maria married James Carter. If I have the connections correct.

Have entered the first three pages of the data. Stuck on Charles Green, father Henry. Nearest I can find is Charles Green born 1813 father Henry. There are not many Henry Greens between 1800 and 1813.

Paul

Paul Report 3 Jan 2010 03:06

Grandparents of Thomas Heath Haggis.
Samuel Hulbert married Jemima Jordan 12 July 1767, St Mary Newington.
Their daughter Elizabeth Halbart was born 12 Nov 1768, Holborn

Paul

Paul Report 3 Jan 2010 00:39

As I said at the top of page 7. Charles Green was the son of Henry. Edward was the son of WIlliam. So the connection is not obvious apart from the fact that they both married Hannah Haggis.
I also don't see a connection between the family of Hannah Maria Green (maiden name unknown) and our Hannah Elizabeth Green nee Haggis.
Two women named Hannah married two men named Green.
I'm really only interested in the Green and Haggis lines and I will keep looking, but I'm getting in trouble for not painting the inside of the house during my holidays!!
Paul

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 Jan 2010 22:38

ok remind me about James carter and what you know.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 Jan 2010 22:33

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Tell you what though I have around a dozen unconnected Smith families. You can search those for me.


Tip search for Bas*nger

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 2 Jan 2010 22:26

Sorry Lady Kira, Interrupted your thought process. I am saving all of this to file. Don't trust certain beings with my important information. I have been back and looked at the previous thread. Info above.

I'm thinking of changing my name to Smith!! They seem to have less problems. I also have my very first thread on file. I think that is where the original Green information is.

Go for it with the Bassingers. Just remember they are spelt Bassenger, Bassinger and Basinger. And there are quite a few more of them than I realised.

I was going to finish with this part of my tree a month ago and selfishly start on my side of the forest. Oh ha, just wait till I start whinging about folks from Bristol. Now I need to put that lot on hold until I am satisfied I have this lot correct.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 2 Jan 2010 22:19

Paul, Do you remember when we first talked about the Green/Bassinger families and I was uncertain whether my Greens were descended from Edward??? .

I have just found the research that prompted that thought. It adds more complications to the mix. In this lot Hannah M Green is the wife of George Green.

I have removed the additional bits of chat from the info and I know the researcher will not mind me using it again. ~~~~~~



1851


Name: Hannah M Green

Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Hannah M
Gender: Female
Where born: St Brides, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Bride
County/Island: Middlesex

Hannah M Green 44 (already widowed)
Hannah M Green 14
William H Green 10
George Green 10
Hance A Green 70
Emily Grace Green 4
Jane Leach 65


1841:

Civil Parish: St Bride and Precinct

George Green 33
Hannah Green 34
Hannah Green 5
Julia Green 3
William Green 1
George Green 1


IGI

HANNAH MARIA GREEN
Birth: 01 APR 1836
Christening: 18 JUN 1837 St Bride Fleet St, London, London, England
Father: GEORGE ARTHUR GREEN
Mother: HANNAH MARIA
Batch No.: C022427


The point I am making is. Was Hannah Maria Green Edward's daughter. Or do we have two different families or even three. Edward, Charles and dare I say it George Green. Sons of William and Charlotte.

All have been born died and married in the Middlesex area.


LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 Jan 2010 22:15

Tut!
Talking when I am mid flow.

Added a few bassingers to get a feel for that side. Got to finish off here then go home but I will keep at it.

Someone on records has a disc for lighter men and watermen and the apprenticeshipbindings.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 Jan 2010 22:08

THOMAS BASINGER Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: ANN KETTAL Family
Marriage: 02 DEC 1806 Saint Botolph Bishopsgate, London, London, England

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M001611

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 Jan 2010 22:03

THOMAS EDWARD GEORGE BASINGER Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 16 JUL 1806

Christening: 03 AUG 1806 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS BASINGER Family
Mother: ANN


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C046983