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OK..you've done it..I'm intrigued.............will get back to you............actually you may have given me a clue with brother..........

Derek
EDIT.....23.11..........................have been looking back at the history of William Adams.....which is uncomplicated back to 1770 ish.....in case you're interested and haven't got it..here is a summary.-

JOHN ADAMS 1767 married Mary Ratcliff at Aston on trent 1807
Their son WILLIAM born Repton 20.11.1807 married Sarah hill of Ticknall 19.11.1838.............their son WILLIAM was baptised Repton 11.08.1839..who in turn married HARRIET POUND in Derby District JFM 1867...............they had several children including your WILLIAM 1875..after which, or because of which HARRIET died..abd William the elder may have died soon after because he does not appear on the 1891..........his mother aged about 80 (in 1881) had been living with family since she was widowed.
According to the 1911 Census William married Elizabeth in 1897/98......but there is no record of the marriage.
But i have found the Birth Registration of DORIS V ADAMS in Burton on trent District Last Quarter 1913............Mother's Maiden name......FORD!!

There are several possible deaths of William Adams in the few years shortly after 1913......but none i can pin down precisely..so you suggestion that Elizabeth re-married may be a goer.........except i cannot find it!!

YET!!!

Derek

Hi Derek. Nice to hear from you! I am glad its not just me who can't find them. I thought I was losing my touch. No-one in the family seems to have a birth certificate for Doris Vera Adams. The only other info I have is that Vera (the name she liked to be known by) had a brother named William Adams. Their Dad - William Adams the elder - then died and Elizabeth their Mum married again. She went on to have more children with her second husband but no-one is sure what the new surname was - possibly Ward but also possibly not?! Many thanks for your efforts thus far :-) xx

Hi Derek

I sincerely hope I am not duplicating my previous post but I can't seem to find it in the list? I may have forgotten to sign into Genes Reunited ?? As you can see I am not fabulous with navigating websites :-S

I am seeking information on my STREET family in Derbyshire. My GGGG grandfather Samuel STREET was born in Horsley 1777 per family bible.

I did find a possible baptism for a Samuel STREET son of Henry and Sarah STREET of Horsley Woodhouse 7 July 1778 ?

I am hoping that you may be able to help me find out more information on Henry STREET & Sarah BENNETT. I know that Henry & Sarah married at Wirksworth on 6 May 1777. Sarah was buried on 31-1-1796 at Wirksworth. "Sarah wife of Henry Street of Cromford"

Hope this email finds you well
Chrissy J
Sydney, NSW

Hello Anne..so nice to hhear from you again..and welcome back......and thanks for the very nice things you say xx.
Now then......this is just an initial acknowledgement of your query..not an answer!!
I have William Adams and his wife Elizabeth on the 1911..with five children, the youngest born in 1910..............He was from Repton and was a carpenter,and indeed was the son of William a Joiner...who in 1881 was a widower.

Elizabeth Ford i have yet to find..she was apparently born in Milton about 1872......but cannot yet nail down her baptism, nor her marriage............
A birth certificate for Doris Vera Adams 1913 would of course help....
ASll i can say at the moment is that according to the 1911 Census....William and Elizabeth had, in 1911, been married 13 years.............unfortunately there does not appeasr to be an appropriate marriage in 1898...............leave it with me!!

Derek.

Hi Derek, Long time no see! I have been really poorly and didn't get around to renewing my GR subscription, however, I am back and having another go at my husband's family tree. I have just renewed my account and was reading earlier on in this thread that you were considering leaving GR - I thought nooooooo! I have just paid for a year and there is no Derek to turn to! :-( But I kept reading and all is well. You are still here. Hurrah! :-)
So ....... any chance you could find out who the parents are of Doris Vera Adams born 1913 in Burton upon Trent? I have been told they should be a William Adams and an Elizabeth Ford but I can't find them anywhere? I am so out of practice it is unbelievable. Many thanks in advance :-D

Hi Derek / Chris
The reason I have asked Derek re The Birth and Marriage of Ann Cooper Hill , is to find out her Father and Mother Re 1911 Census
So I know which Families Ann belong too
I know we can send for Certificates but I thought maybe Derek may be able to help
Olive

(if any help to Derek, couple currently being 'worked on', below 'Thread'!)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1359148

Chris :)

Derbyshire Registrars Marriage Index Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Joseph William
Last name Darrington
Marriage year 1889
Parish Baptist Chapel
Place Swanwick
Spouse's first name Ann Cooper
Spouse's last name Hill
Reference ARO/16/036
Register Office 392


Derbyshire Registrars Birth Index Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) ANN HILL
Last name COOPER
Birth year 1872
Place ALFRETON
Reference AB/27/097
Register office Amber Valley (Ripley)
Subdistrict Alfreton

HI Derek
I wonder if you would find me a Birth and Marriage Please

Birth=Ann Cooper Hill June 1872 Belper Derbyshire

Marriage Ann Cooper Hill ---Joseph William Darrington Sept 1889 Belper

Thankyou
Olive

Hi Brian.......thank you for your PM..Just to let you know I'm on the case..please use my thread for communication..not PM

Thanks

Derek.

Hello Derek,
Many thanks for repeating your reply. As very much a novice using Threads I missed your previous reply !
Your information very much confirms what I have suspected from my own searches. I was prompted by one of my Matterson relatives who posed the question of a Hardwick ancestry connection. All I have found so far is that there were/are many Hardwick family lines that seem to have no connection with Bess's ancestors.

I just wondered if I had missed any records from earlier generations.

None the less I will follow your advice if only to satisfy my curiosity.

Thanks again,

Sincerely yours, Michael

Hello Michael..I have seen this enquiry ,or one very like it, somewhere..probably on Rootschat.and I'll give you the same reply i gave when i last got involved.........There IS no evidence.
Indeed there is plenty of historical Archive here on the net to show that the Elizabeth de Hardwick (born Ault Hucknall 1521) part of any Hardwick family..probably ceased to eist as early as 1524..with the death of John de Hardwick, father of Bess.

Elizabeth Hardwick born 1521 was the fourth child of five, of which there was only one Male........who died without issue............hence the end of that particular Hardwick line.
The four daughters, including Bess, all married..so essentially the name hardwick disappeared..............into a morass of local Ducal dynasties.......

If you'd asked if John Smith was descended from the Hardwick line...you'd have had a little more chance..but HARDWICK???? definitely not.

I'm sorry Michael, but you're flying a kite..like all the people who bombard me with requests for a link to Florence Nightingale... and others........

It its any consolation..the AULT HUCKNALL Parish records..and other very local ones, are full of Hardwicks..none of which are descended from John de Hardwick..or if, by any chance they are then it is a veritable miracle, because the PR's are unreadable before about 1560.

All the best.

Derek.

PS..if you Google "John de Hardwick"..a scroll down menu will tell you in detail, the lineage of all the edscendants of John........

Hello Derek,
Do you have any evidence that George Hardwick (of Burton Fields Catton Stamford Bridge Yorkshire East Riding & born 1755) may be descended from Bess of Hardwick (c1522-1608) or one of her ancestors. George's daughters Jane and Elizabeth were married to brothers Thomas and Edward Matterson respectively. The Matterson family have been traced back to a William Matterson (born about 1530) of Marton or Merton, in the Yorkshire Hundred of Berghshire, who was an ancestor of a Peter Matterson of Dunsforth (born about 1610).

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Sincere regards,

Michael Chilton

Hi Derek,

Thank you for your time in helping me, I hadn't found either of those marriages and you must have spent some time eliminating Elizabeth Reaney, Fingers crossed the Jennings one is the correct one,

All I have for Mark Seaston/Seston is his baptism and that his parents were John Seaston and Hannah Cutt who were married at Bolsover on 2/11/1813. I would appreciate any other info you have.


Chrissie

Hello derek..re your Ashbourne families...I'm not sure what you're asking for......if you cann be more specific,I'm sure i have the answers..

derek.

Thank you most kindly Derek.. :-)

Hello Chrissie.........this is a bit of a bugger!!.............In short, i cannot find a marriage for Mark Seaston/Seston/Leston..as he appears successivelyy on several Censuses

Yes he is married to an Elizabeth..and has loads of children..in the early days he was an Ironstone Miner..and later an Agricultural labourer......I'm sure you have a full history for him AFTER his alleged marriage... if you haven't then let me know.... He was baptised 03.09.1815 at Bolsover..the son of John and Hannah...

Their first child appears to be Elizabeth Ann, born about 1840 at Bolsover......which would suggest a marriage before that...............BMD's start in 1837..but if he was born 1815, he could have been married in theory any time from about 1831-1840...............a difficult time just before the advent of Marriage registrations..............BUT there is a possibility..no more.......my devious mind has unearthed only one possible marriage after 1837...April/May/June MARK SEASTON married ELIZABETH REANEY..or ELIZABETH JENNINGS in Sheffield...........ok..yes..Elizabeth Easton Seston Leston was apparently born in Nottingham..circa 1814.....so before we reject this possibility..there is no reason at all why 23 years later she would not be living or working perhaps as a servant in Sheffield..having been born in Nottingham..........

Ok so far???? i have chased up Elizabeth Reaney, and she appears to be a non starter.......

BUT..there WAS an ELIZABETH JENNINGS born St Mary's Nottingham in 1814.....

Bloody Hell i hear you say............well that's as far as i can get at the moment

I have nno idea whether it was Elizabeth reaney or Jennings that married mark Seaston in Sheffield..and i'll see what i can do on that.....but i offer you a very devious possibility!!

Nice to hear from you again..

Derek.

Hi Derek...... Ime forwarding this to again sorry as ime not too sure if you sent me the info on the ten children and the six other children, I have looked all through my paper work today,still cant find it..Please could you send it me again..Earth...next instalment....you must start in the message below:

George Froggatt 1657 married ANNE ALLCOCK at Ashbourne 10.06.1681

They had TEN children..you can have them if you want..but for now the eldest was WILLIAM 1681 (at Ashbourne)..who married ALICE HAUKESWORTH 1706

Their SIX children included THOMAS FROGGATT 1723 who married ANN BIRCH..four children including GEORGE FROGGATT1746..who married ANN BRADBURY at Hayfield Glossop and had:

GEORGE 1775
JOHN 1777
THOMAS 1779

George Froggatt had two wives..the first ANN BATE..by whom he had three children 1797 1799and 1802.....before he married HANNAH FURTON and had three more children including our JOSEPH 1812...the rest you know.......

There are several other strings to the earlier children and their marriages.but thats' HARD work

All the best

Derek

Hi Derek,

Could you please try to find a marriage for Mark Seston (sometimes spelt Seaston) born c1816 at Bolsover to an Elizabeth NK born c1814 Nottinghamshire,

I believe that their daughter Elizabeth who was baptised on 12th May 1839 at Bolsover was their eldest child.


Chrissie

Hi Derek , so glad you have decided to stay who else would put up with my Meashams ;-) :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Hi Derek,

So glad you are staying. I too did think about not renewing but decided to give it another year.

:-D :-D

all the best

Wendy