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Thank you Derek for replying, I'll look forward to hearing from you sometime in the future when you've fully recovered which I hope is very soon.

All the best

Kath

thankyou very much derek

no wonder i could not find him why not name him the name he is known as the cousin that went to canada that you helped me with talked about mickiver

perhaps i shall be able to find things

thanks so much without your help it would be impossible to find any more

sally w <3

edit 15.58 have found birth and death dates thanks :-D

Sally...he was baptised at Cotmanhay Ilkeston 13.06.1886 son of Thomas and Eliza..........baptismal name WILLIAM HENRY PURDY.........
..the Civil registration of the birth Dec.1886 has him as William Henry M Purdy
Derek

hello derek

third time of trying to post

pleas can you find any thing on my first cousin 1 removed

mackiniver w hy purdy 1887 ilkeston.....wher did they get that name

father thomas1858 ilkeston
mother eliza unknown shipley

grandad william1822
grandmum martha fullwood 1825

i can only find him on the1891 census

thankyou for any thing

sally w <3

Hello Kathleen.....Happy New year to you.............yes I've seen the 1860 Death...civil registration Chesterfield District............but this means any of several local parishes, not necessarily Chesterfield itself............"Chesterfield" would mean Chesterfield St Mary's.for which I don't have the records..or New Brampton..for which I do...I'll look at the list of parishes that were included in the Chesterfeld registration District..and go through the records that I do have.........otherwise 'll have to go to Matlock to lokk at the one's I don't have......may not be for a while becasue i had a ghastly Christmas healthwise, and am still recovering...............but the fact that you have Mary Holmes wife of Abel Holmes Chesterfield 1860..??????? definitely ??????.........I'll find her.

Derek.

Hi Derek
I too think that he stayed as George Turner through out his life i just want to get him with the right year of birth & parents as we have only got the child Arthur wilson turner birth certificate which shows his parents as George Turner & Hannah Wilson
as info to go on he was born in sheffield/ (He was not an easy one to find till i got his birth certiicate.)
These Turners are not as easy as you might think to find are they
As you say George Taylor could be a red herring
:-)
Thanks for all your help with this :-) :-)

Well..it did and it didn't....shows George Turner as father..and am looking further.............tell you what...try another scenario.......SARAH married George Taylor..but that marriage is nothng to do with George Turner...the george Taylor born Cromford 07.03.1819..who you might think was the candidate to marry Sarah.....was still unmarried on the 1881 Census!!

Sarah Turner marred George Taylor Belper District Dec 1842..but not at Cromford.....I'm beginning to think that he is a complete red herring.....

I have found George Turner 1843 son of George and Sarah Turner at Lea on the 1851..and Lea Road runs into Cromford a couple of miles away..says born Lea..but that is more than possible.......different Censuses often show different birth places........my new scenario is that George was probably born before 1843..when he was baptised.....then his parents got married..and he remained george Turner throughout.....in spite of the odd mistranscription.....and it seems to hang together..............unless you know better!!

Happy New Year

Derek

Hi Derek
Did me sending you that marriage certificate help you in anyway?
Sharon

Hi Derek,

I've recently found the report of the death of a Mary Holmes wife of Abel Holmes in Dec.1860 in the newspapers on FMP. You've tried to help me before to find when she died but without success as there was so many of them with that name. It looks very much as if this is the right one going by her age and living in Chesterfield. What I wondered was, is there any more info you can find for me? The report says she was living in Stoke's yard, Chesterfield when she died.

Many thanks and a Happy New year to you
Kath

Actually I do......I was wretchedly ill.........xxxxx

you expect me to belive that :-S

Naughty Sally..........I had my first, very small, whiskey of Christmas..late last evening!!..

sorry to see you have not been well i hope it was not all that whisky :-D


i will send you orange juice next time

all the best for the new year

sally w <3

Yes Derek the name taylor throws me too. In the 1871 Cenus his name is Listed as Geo Turner the Marriage Certificate i heve to his wife Hannah Wilson does show his father as George turner an Iron Moulder. The later Cenus list George turner born in Cromford abt 1842 they lived in Rotherham.
I would go for a birth certificate once i know a deffinate one to go for. :-)
Have sent you a message re marriage
Sharon :-)

Hi Derek.....

Just checked your thread.... first time since Christmas!

Sorry to hear you have been ill.
Hope you are now feeling much better and on the road to recovery.

Wishing you and your family a wonderful New Year.

Thank you for all your help during 2012......no doubt I will be back to bother you again in 2013.

Kind Regards
Susan :-D

Hi Derek, hope you are feeling well.I cannot wait to see anything else you can give me on the Shipleys. The illegitimate son of Gladys was in fact my father and we have no idea how to find out who his father was. I am also really intrigued to know what the scandal was. Happy New Year, regards Sandie. :-)

Good morning Derek, Happy New Year to you both and hope you are feeling ok. <3

Good morning Sharon.......I'm afraid that you seem to have as much as you're going to get..it's the name change to Taylor tht throws me and i don't peronally think it's a justified leap of faith without some back up.......I am still trying, without success to find Sarah turner.........I think its time to start looking for certificates.

Happy New Year.

Derek.

hi Derek
Hope you are feeling better. Have you had any more luck re George Turner of Cromford for me ? if not then is it what is mentioned on my thread re him.
Thanks Sharon

Hi Derek, Thank you so much for all the info in that short time.I would love any more you can give me and I am intrigued to know more about the scandle. Hope you are feeling much better, Sandie.