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Oh dear v sorry about that typo Derek - should have been 1817 of course. The other aspect which is currently fascinating me is if there could be a link between Sapphira (sometimes Sophia) Holmes, second wife of William Hanson b 1817 and married to him on 16.8.1856 and Emma Holmes who married Sapphira's stepson William Hanson b 1845. Searches for Sapphira and Emma Holmes have yielded nothing so far.

Many thanks for your help.

i Sally..I'm onto it..not ignoring you..

Derek xx

Hello Tui.I'm working on this..and very complicated it is!!..would help if you gave me the right birth date for William Hanson!! lol.......you may like to know that Amy's father on the marriage entry was one LEWIS WHITE!.I'm feverishly looking for a previous marriage that makes this possible.............particularly as Lewis appears tp have had five children but no Amy..and then married again in 1851 at the age of 65!......John Smedley also appears as a witness to William's marriage to Amy............and I don't know why...though I distrust that particular piece of information

Will get back to you later....

Derek.

Hello Derek - Reggie has referred me to your thread. I am researching the Stirland (Shirland/Sterland) family and Hanson families in the Eastwood/Heanor/Greasley areas. It appears that William Hanson b 1871, Whitwick Leicestershire first married Amy Frost in Duffield on 14.11.43. Amy is shown on the record as single but it appears that she had already been married. William's father is shown as John Smedly not Hanson which is another puzzle. On 16.8.1856 William married Sapphira Holmes and I can find them on the 1881 census where she is shown as Sophia. I thought I had found William again on the 1841 census but when I looked closely those details were incorrect. Very new to all this so any assistance would be much appreciated

hello Derek
please can you help me
you confirmed for me the children of Richard Purdy an Elizabeth blower

Richard was the son of William and jane is itpossible to find her surnemealso I have the siblings of William as I am in a muddle

the info you gave me is on page 139

thankyou

sally w edit 1330/25 /5

I have found William 1734 jane 1742 Samuel 1744 joh`n 1746 jane 1752 jenina1754

all children of William and janebut it seems big age gap between am I matghung up with the wrong parants
I hope you and your magic can help
<3 :-S

Thank you Derek, if you have those photos you emailed me about, could you resend them as it didnt come through properly. Thank you so much for your hard work x

Liz

Hello Liz........have confirmed the two baptisms for you..have also found that William was baptised at Hartington Upper Quarter and lived in Earl Sterndale....since i have the Chelmorton records and the various Buxton Records..I should be able to answer further problems if you have any..

Derek.

Hi Julie..have looked everywhere for this marriage.............since they were both from St Werbergh..and all their children were baptised at St Werbergh, you'd think that would be the place.but it isn't.......I'm at a loss at the moment!! sorry.

Mark........John Neal buried Elvaston 07.10.1808..no other details..I took a photo of the record, which I'll try and send by PM.
Derek.

Hi Derek

Still struggling with John Neal 1805...

If you get the chance could you check the Elvaston PRs for me to see if the 1808 burial for John Neal is an infant and if so are the parents are listed?

On a long road of sleuthing!

Cheers
Mark

Hello Marian..not my strongest point..but DINNINGTON MAIN closed in 1992..ECKINGTON is still going, but only as a Drift Mine..and WEST BROMWICH had about 12 separate Mines............
.....I really suggest that you type any of these Mines into "Google Search"..and look at all the various Headings.............there is a wealth of Knowledge available..from which you may be able to take any specifics........

All the best

Derek.

DEAR DERECK PLEASE ARE YOU ABLE TO TELL ME WHEN THE COAL MINES CEASED TO FUNCTION IN WEST BROMWICH, ECKINGTON AND DINNINTON..MY
FAMILY..BAILEY MOVED ON AS MANY DID, WITH MINE CLOSURES AND THE REOPENING OF NEW PITS,,,MY EARLIEST KNOWN FAMILY WAS AT DARLASTON
WITH AN UNDER AGE(it seems) marriage at St Lawrence Church on feb,9th 1823
someone found the marriage of Joseph Bayley to Charlotte WILKINSON..BUT I AM ABOUT TO FINISH SHORTLY AS I CAN NO LONGER CONCENTRATE,, ALSO ANOTHER QUERY THAT YOU MAY POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO HELP WITH..MY GRANDAD WILLIAM BAILEY 1885 BORN ECKINGTON WAS A MINER AT DINNINGTON YORKS,,DO YOU KNOW HOW I CAN TRACK DOWN ANY REPORT OF THEOPENING OF THE FIRST AID..BUILDING FOR DINNINGTON YORKSHIRE..WILLIAM BAILEY WAS THE MAN WHO RAN THIS PLACE FOR MANY YEARS, AND AS A CHILD I OFTEN VISITED HIM,,I KNOW DERBYSHIRE IS YOUR REMIT, BUT YOU MAY KNOW A MAN WHO DOES KNOW I AM NOW 80 AND LIVE IN CHELTENHAM . :-) :-) :-) :-)

Hi Derek,

Thank you for the info. If you do go to Matlock could you see if there is an Entry for wedding of William Ballington 1778 - 1861, Derby, and Temperance Matson 1772 - 1861, Derby. There 1st child was round about 1802 that I know of, unless there was any more.

Regards
Julie

Hello Julie............Family Search.org have Jane Ballington baptised All Saints Derby
20.01.1849......daughter of Joseph and Ann.......BUT............Derby Registration District have a Civil registration of her BIRTH..and her DEATH 1st Quarter 1847.............from BMD records......

So either IGI should read 1847..or BMD's should read 1849..but since the BMD's give two separate registered events in 1847..I would tend to believe them over IGI......either way Jane Ballington died very soon after Birth....

The only way to be sure is to send for the Certs...........but since they will come from Derby RD..the date will almost certainly be 1847

I plan to go to Matlock perhaps this week.I'll look up the original PR's

Derek

Hi Derek,

Thought you needed something to do. I'm looking for the death of Jane Ballington, born 1849 died in Derby, i'm guessing before the 1951 census, as she's not on it. Jane's parents are Joseph Ballington 1816 - 1901 and Ann Saxelby 1817 - ? Let me know if you need any more info.

Regards
Julie

so sad :-| :-| :-| :-|

do not worry

enjoy your rest

sally w <3

No need to sulk Derek I will be in touch with some more for you soon. Just trying to sort out all the info I have already had :-D :-D :-D :-D

..over two weeks......nobody wants me.......sulking!!

Hi Derek
Thanks for the information. I have the wedding cetificate -it just says father dead and no mention of mother.

I wondered if there were any other Mary's that would fit the bill perhaps living nearer to Rocester.

fiona

Hello Fiona.............Mary Copestake was already in Rocester by 1841 when she was working as a Farm Servant....by 1851 she was married to Samuel Henshaw..and there is a complete Census record of her from 1851 onwards.................she appears to have been the illegitimate daughter of Hannah Copestake..baptised at All Saints Derby 24.03.1822..............Samuel Henshaw married Mary COPESICK (!!) in Uttoxeter Registration District JFM 1845.............purchasing the Marriage Certificate would confirm her parentage....and even if it only shows Hannah Copestake...and no father...at least you will know you have the right person..

I am very happy to look into this further if you so wish.

Derek