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Dea,

Yes, there is a George Nippard marrying a Lydia Cailes, but since the George I'm interested in appears on the 1901 census, as a widower, with 'my' Walter Rigler, i presumed he must be the one who married Lydia Troke who died in 1878. Maybe???

Albert Walter Rigler was born 8th Feb 1884 in Poole and his parents were Albert 'Cherrett'(sp??) Rigler and Mary Rigler, nee Best.

And I've just noticed that there isn't anywhere that says Sarah is his mother!!!!!!! Just that he, and the other children, had the same surname as her and not George.....OMG!! I don't understand!!!

and Potty, good spot on Riglee - will give it a go, tis an unusual name after all!

Now, I really must feed my daughter!!!! Thanks for all your help, by the way - much appreciated x

Just spotted on Ancestry.com the following Christening record:

Sarah Riggler
Christened: 27th Dec 1861, Canford, Poole
Mother: Lydia Riggler

(no father mentioned)

??????????

Dea, I can't find George and Lydia in 1911.

Kelly, what do you think of the birth reg I found?

Lydia Rigler in 1861:

1861 England Census
about Lydia Rigler
Name: Lydia Rigler
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Celia
Gender: Female
Where born: Morden, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Canford
Ecclesiastical parish: Kinson
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Poole
Sub-registration district: Canford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 96
Household Members: Name Age
John Rigler 50
Celia Rigler 48
Lydia Rigler 24
Isabela Rigler 21
James Rigler 18
Kitty Rigler 14
John Rigler 10

Potty,

1911 - She is using her middle name 'Emily'.

Dea x

Kelly,

You are so right - both Nippard + Rigler are both unusual names and I notice above you have now added Cherrett?

I have been saving this marriage ref as the names were both on it but it is even more interesting now??

I should put it to one side for now as it is not relevant at the moment but I am SURE it will prove useful later:

Marriages Jun 1843
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Arnold James Poole 8 131
BOOKER Elizabeth Poole 8 131
>>>>CHERRETT Ann Poole 8 131
Downton Sarah Poole 8 131
Haskell Thomas Poole 8 131
MEABY Eliza Poole 8 131
>>>>NIPPARD George Poole 8 131
>>>>RIGLAR Thomas Poole 8 131

Could just be coincidence but it is strange to have all 3 unusual names?

Dea x

You are right Kelly,

There are 2 George Nippards to fit those two marriages.

The one on 1911 does not appear to be the one you are following.

Same occupation, same area, similarly named children. - confusing!!

Back to the one you are after.................


Dea x

I wondered if Sarah might be with her grandparents in 1871 but no:

1871 England Census
about John Rigler
Name: John Rigler
Age: 69
Estimated birth year: abt 1802
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Leala
Gender: Male
Where born: Hurn, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Kinson
Town: East Howe
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Poole
Sub-registration district: Canford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 124
Household Members: Name Age
John Rigler 69
Leala Rigler 60
William Rigler 7 grandson
Henry Rigler 5 grandson

Did you follow my links?

Hi yes, sorry - forgot to thank you! Yes, did follow links but didn't find any of 'my' people.

Thanks anyway - have made a note of for future reference!

Re Sarah, daughter of Lydia, born c 1861.

I don't believe it is the Portsea one as the birth is too late, but I do believe this may be the correct birth reference?


Births Sep 1861 **************************
RIGLERA Sarah Poole 5a 274

It also fits with the Christening date.

Dea x

Morning Dea, how are you??

Thank you!! It looks likely - will order that one! Honestly, why can't people have normal surnames!! Mind you, I'd be having even more trouble if they were called Smith!!!

Thanks for all your help - will keep you posted if/when I get the certs!!

Good morning Kelly.

A little better today thank you!.

Anyway, I am not sure that you will get any helpful info from that cert though - we need to work out how Lydia seems to have become a Troke?

Also we need Sarah on 1871.

I will keep at it!

Dea x

Just checked through the thread again and you never did give us the details from Walter's marriage cert!

Everything please - including witnesses.

Thanks,

Dea x

Could this be the Rigler/Choke connection?:

Marriages Dec 1838 (>99%)
BARTLETT Sarah Christchurch 8 263
HOLLOWAY Henry Christchurch 8 263
RICKLER John Christchurch 8 263
TROKE Seler Christchurch 8 263

And a possible previous marriage for John?:

JOHN RIGLAR Pedigree
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY SCOTT Family
Marriage: 23 MAY 1831 Great Canford, Dorset, England

Thanks Potty,

That could well be John's marriage to Celia (Seler??) Troke - Lydia's mother.

Well done!

Dea x

Isabella and her mother in 1841 - in Poole Union Workhouse (with another variation on Celia/Seler's name):

1841 England Census
about Isabella Rigtar
Name: Isabella Rigtar
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Where born: Dorset, England

And this is possibly why they are in the workhouse:

Name: John Rigler
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil parish: St Peter
Hundred: Dorchester Borough
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address: Dorset County Gaol

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Dorchester and Cerne
Sub-registration district: Dorchester


Civil parish: Canford Magna
Hundred: Cogdean
County/Island: Dorset
Registration district: Poole
Sub-registration district: Poole

Name: Salah Riglar
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil parish: Canford Magna
Hundred: Cogdean
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Yes Potty,

I have John in the 'House of Correction' on 1841 + Isabella + Mum (Salah) - Celia? in the Workhouse but I can't trace Lydia?

Dea x

Dea, I can't find Lydia either. Just been for lunch so will carry on looking.

Sorry; marriage cert for Walter:

29th June 1907
Moordown Parish Church, Christchurch

Walter Rigler aged 23 Bachelor Carter
Ada Hockey aged 26 Spinster Laundress

Residence for both: Pineholm, Muccleshell Road

Walter's father: George Nippard, Labourer
Ada's father: William Hockey, Painter

Witnesses: Walter 'Cosser' (sp?) and Beatrice 'Barter' (sp?)