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WayneTracey
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22 Nov 2009 14:33 |
Thanks Root i'll take a look..... i didn't realise there were 2 threads!
Grrr....
I know there is another Walter L Walden floating about, different father, i'll see if i can dig the baptism out.
once again Grrr
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22 Nov 2009 14:30 |
Tracey - I've nudged the other thread for you.
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22 Nov 2009 14:28 |
Tracey - I think it is back to the comments on the other thread about the 1916 marriage to Annie A Cox! I think Colin needs to buy both those marriage certificates for Walter Levi Walden.
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22 Nov 2009 14:25 |
Interestingly - when you search for births for Walter L* Walden on freeBMD, this is what you get.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1866 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WALDEN Walter L Kensington 1a 192
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1914 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WALDEN Walter L Staten Wrexham 11b 520
And for marriages
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WALDEN Walter Levi Fulham 1a 502
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Walden Walter Levi Fulham 1a 473
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1916 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Walden Walter L Cox Fulham 1a 697
I wonder if "Levi" was sometimes just added on??
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WayneTracey
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22 Nov 2009 14:21 |
To add to my last thread, Sarah died in Aus.
Sarah Wilson. Birth 8 oct 1884 in hammersmith london eng Death 7 may 1949 in maylands w.a. aus
No other data on Walter Levi Walden, did he leave her behind and come home alone?
Tracey x
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22 Nov 2009 14:19 |
Colin
Have you got a tree on Ancestry with these people on? This data is on someone's tree, maybe indicating they never returned?
Charles William Walden Birth 18 oct 1911 in north fremantle Death 30 nov 1946 in perth w.a. aus
Parents, Walter Levi Walden & Sarah Wilson....
This would suggest they never came home?
Tracey x
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22 Nov 2009 14:17 |
Sorry Colin - I know that it is moving away a bit from your original query but I am just trying to get the family clear in my head.
It looks like George the builder is a son of George the Basketmaker and therefore a brother of Walter (Senior) and Uncle to Walter that went to Australia - I think! (She Chuckles!)
I think you are up against a Scottish problem here in that all brothers name sons for their fathers and daughters for their mothers!! And the fact that your family pretty well stayed in the same are when they married..........
EDIT
There are 4 pages of Waldens in Fulham on the 1911 census!
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WayneTracey
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22 Nov 2009 14:12 |
OOoooh nice find!
I'll see if i can find any baptisms to go with the list lol
EDIT: Nope just those 2....
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22 Nov 2009 14:10 |
From earlier census, I think that Georgina and Walter were the youngest of several children! Walter must be elsewhere on this one.
1871
Name: George P Walden Age: 49 Estimated birth year: abt 1822 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Edey Gender: Male Where born: Wokingham, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Fulham Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Fulham ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Household schedule number: 154 Household Members: Name Age George P Walden 49 Basket Maker Edey Walden 48 Emma R Walden 18 Ann Walden 16 William Walden 12 Georgina Walden 7 Marget Hughes 63 Lodger Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 70; Folio: 18; Page: 28; GSU roll: 824578.
1861
Name: George P Walden Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ewy Gender: Male Where born: Wokingham, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Fulham Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Fulham ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 15 Household Members: Name Age George P Walden 40 Basket Maker Ewy Walden 39 Emmanuel Walden 13 George Walden 11 Emma Walden 9 Ann Walden 6 William Walden 3 Alfred Walden 2 Mo Ann Dolity 79 Lodger Elizabeth Jeffrieson 79 Lodger
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 28; Folio: 103; Page: 2; GSU roll: 542559.
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22 Nov 2009 14:07 |
Brother George in 1911.... who's the Aunt?
WALDEN, George Head Married M 25 1886 Labourer Fulham London WALDEN, Louisa Wife Married 7 years F 23 1888 Fulham London WALDEN, George Son M 6 1905 School Fulham London FISHER, Priscilla Aunt, Widow F 54 1857 Housekeeper Nework Folks RG number:RG14 Piece:293 Reference:RG14PN293 RG78PN9 RD3 SD3 ED27 SN248 Address: 41 Crefeld Road Fulham W County: London
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22 Nov 2009 14:02 |
George & Louisa's child
Name: George Walden Record Type: Baptism Date: 17 Jul 1906 Father's Name: George Philip Walden Mother's Name: Louisa Walden Parish: Saint Alban, Fulham Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham County: Middlesex
Living at 10 Chelmesford Street, father a wood chopper.
DoB: 11 Oct 1905
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22 Nov 2009 13:55 |
Brother George's marriage...
Name: George Philip Walden Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Spouse Name: Louisa Oliver Spouse Age: 18 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 12 Sep 1904 Parish: Saint Alban, Fulham County: Middlesex Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham Father Name: Walter Walden Spouse Father Name: Herbert Oliver
Both living at 17 Chelmesford Street.
and Walter Levi Walden & Sarah Wilson are the witness's.....
Tracey x
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Colin
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22 Nov 2009 13:51 |
Hi Root gatherer Thanks for your input. George Philip age 61 the buider is the right family Its a nightmare tracing them as the same names occur again and again..............colin
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22 Nov 2009 13:49 |
Could he have returned by 1911
There are these people on the 1911 census. what were Walter's parents names?
HOUSEHOLD WALDEN ALFRED M 1899 12 Fulham London HOUSEHOLD WALDEN ALICE F 1886 25 Fulham London HOUSEHOLD WALDEN EALAIN F 1866 45 Fulham London HOUSEHOLD WALDEN JAMES M 1897 14 Fulham London HOUSEHOLD WALDEN WALTER M 1866 45 Fulham London HOUSEHOLD WALDEN WALTER M 1885 26 Fulham London
Is this Walter (Senior)'s marriage? If so has Ellen been mistranscribe as Ealain in 1911?
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Strong Ellen Fulham 1a 502 WALDEN Walter Levi Fulham 1a 502
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22 Nov 2009 13:48 |
Hi Colin
Do you have a copy of Walter & Sarah's marriage cert?
Tracey x
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22 Nov 2009 13:47 |
Walter Levi the elder's father was George P Walden and mother was EDITH.
Sister was Georgina....
As far as i'm aware George P & Edith only had Walter and Georgina.
So i think the top census is correct....
Colin hasn't indicated they had more children than that?
Tracey x
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22 Nov 2009 13:44 |
Tracey I feel great you have given me 3 addresses I didn't have The other information you gave is accurate.The witness George is his uncle and Louisa is his aunt. I have only been able to find a boarding list with Sarah and a male infant, her son who did not survive the trip. There was no reference to a husband or walter l walden by name. It might be an oversight or he may have trvelled at a different.time. Thats the information I am trying to find. Thanks again for your great efforts..............colin
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22 Nov 2009 13:27 |
Sorry Tracey - I was looking at the baptism that you posted - the one that was the father and aunt of the Walter being looked for.
I have caught up now - I think! The Walter in the 1881 census with father George (the Basketmaker) had a son George P. in 1886 who was the brother of the Walter that went off to Australia. Is this correct please?
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22 Nov 2009 13:13 |
Hi Root
??, George P Walden was born Oct 1885 and the brother of Walter, their father was also a Walter....
Tracey x
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22 Nov 2009 13:12 |
Having had a good look round this one is the best choice i feel...
New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 Name: Mr. Walden Port of Departure: Brisbane Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 31 Jan 1913 Vessel Name: Penguin
The Image also has a "Mrs Walden + child"
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