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Not anywhere on 1891 can I see any possible and that is the only 1901 on Ancestry or FMP anywhere near that turns up.

Get those certs Sarah! Then we'll race to the finish.

Viv - this looks like the second time something in Kent is simply missing from Ancestry.

Can you give me the RG etc numbers so I can try that way?


>> never mind ... I was looking in 1891 ...

You really need to buy these I think to be certain you are on the correct lines,without them is just guess work.

Births Sep 1882
King Thomas Aaron Sheppey 2a 890


Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%)
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King Aaron Sheppey 2a 2125
Howting Elizabeth Sheppey 2a 2125

I really really appreciate both of you helping I'm just getting really confused with all the names.
I literally had a line going right back but something didn't match up and I had to delete it. There are a few parallel Kings and Howtings with loads of children and it's messing with my brain!

My nan doesn't seem to remember much but, if I can get her siblings names off her it'll be a great help!

I'm truly touched by all the help you've given me. I never expected such an amazing response

1901??Find my Past(FMP)

KING, George Head Married M 54 1847 Agricultural Labourer
Eastchurch
Kent
KING, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 56 1845
Harty
Kent
WEBB, Annie Daughter Widow F 28 1873
Eastchurch
Kent
KING, Mary A Daughter Single F 21 1880
Eastchurch
Kent
KING, Thomas Son Single M 18 1883 Agricultural Labourer <<<
Eastchurch
Kent
WEBB, Vera Grand Daughter F 1 1900
Eastchurch

Registration District:
Sheppey

Address:
Swanley Farm, Eastchurch

So its down to the wire here methinks,and anyway Sarah tells me she has just become a genaholic.
So will leave it until she asks for more help if needed and has the cert of some sort in her grasp.
£7 each from the GRO only if you dont know yet Sarah.

If you want more help on this lot Sarah please come back here and dont start a new thread as all the info needed to go back further is in front of us and work already done.
viv

Nope. [I'll leave the birth ref to show that the Aaron in the censuses isn't our guy]

Births Dec 1883
KING Aaron Alfred Hoo 2a 537


Where is this guy in 1881? --

Marriages Jun 1880
Evans Arthur Sheppey 2a 1241
Holmes Elizabeth Sarah A Sheppey 2a 1241
> King Thomas Sheppey 2a 1241
Perry Harriett Sheppey 2a 1241


Will you edit all the bumph out of your census records?!?!?!? I am just so tired of ploughing through all that noise ...

Watch this:


[edited out the wrong stuff too!]

(but it isn't him so we should both just delete it from our posts!)

Wrong 1891 edited out!

But yes..the marriage cert is needed or his birth cert for parents names.

Mmm ... yes, they were married ... I was just getting at how the form demands the marriage and kids info for married *women* only and he may have gone overboard from there.


Nobody has the marriage cert I assume? Need his father's name. Suspecting he may be one of the classic cases of born to an unmarried Ms. King, hiding in censuses under stepfather's name ...

Remember the IY. He could have been in South Africa in 1901 ... many were.

http://www.britishmedals.us/files/iyk.htm

King, Thomas 36088, L/Corporal 6th Coy., 4th Bn. I.Y.
King, Thomas 3192, Private 14th Coy., 5th Bn. I.Y.
King, Thomas 22155, Trooper 59th Coy., 15th Bn. I.Y.
King, Thomas 28654, Trooper 8th Coy., 4th Bn. I.Y.
King, Thomas 24305*, Trooper 1st Scottish Horse

She was married to him going on the marriage in 1903 that I posted on page 1,
They seem to have married straight after the birth of Edward King Howting

Well you notice he couldn't spell his name ...

Births Sep 1882
King Thomas Aaron Sheppey 2a 890

TOMAS on 1911.

Will have a look ...


STOP SENDING ME PMs!!!! I can read, sheesh.

Re the 1911 nationality - I wonder whether he did it for her because she was the married woman, the one who got all the info about how long married, how many kids born/living, and so the one who got her nationality added too?

One of life's little mysteries, why they did what they did when they're too long gone to ask now ... and probably wouldn't remember anyway. ;)

Anybody see Thomas Aaron king on 1901 or 1891??
cos I sure cant.

This site is not good for records, Ancestry is sworn by and at for most things.

I did try but thought you had to click on the pen which you used to do!!
And when nothing happened I gave up.
You know how good Im not on puters.

Sarah..
If you take out the 2 week free trail at ancestry you can search 7/11 to your hearts content and try to make contact with the person that corrected the spellings on the census.
Just remember to cancel your trail the day BEFORE its up if you dont want them to whip your money from the bank.
Its what I did to start with then realised I couldnt live without it so Him indoors gets it for my birthday every year now.

Many thanks to you both!

Is 'Ancestry' more comprehensive than this site?

If so, I'm signing up now!

S

Oh well now -- will I get a footnote then? ;)
(ah, you edited and credited!)


Viv, did you not look at Ancestry to see who did the correction and what they said??

click on the Additional Info link over on the left, or on the name in square brackets. Here, allow me -- the actual correction is on the father's name and applied to the other household members.

Right. The person who made the correction didn't say word one. May be somebody completely unrelated who happened to see it (I do that all the time - but I always say I'm not related), or a close family member (when I correct my own family I say what my connection is and invite contacts).

The correction was made in April 2004 and the member last logged in to Ancestry last week. If you subscribe at Ancestry, all you have to do is go to the Edward Howling record in 1901, click on the corrected name, click on the username, and click "contact" to send a message.

2nd opinion in..

BS by parentage means born outside the UK to British parents who conveyed their citizenship to the child. Actually it would only have been the father's-side parentage that counted.

Hardly makes sense in this case since they were all British born.

Is that the form filled out by the householder? A confused householder maybe, who thought it had to be filled out with something.

Whom it seems to apply to is Emily Elizabeth, since it's scrunched and starts on her line, although it could conceivably be meant to apply from her down.

Dunno. If she wasn't born abroad, which it says she wasn't, why say that?

That first kid is registered as Edward King HOWTING in Sheppey. Is that actually a name? I don't see a birth for Emily Elizabeth as such ... Oh yeah, it's a real Sheppey name. She's Emily Howting reg Jun Q 1884 presumably born March.

So I have no idea why nationality would come into it. I'd say Mr King over-read the form.


Thank you Janey..
I see what you mean ,but why only apply it to Emily if he thinks he should put nationality down?
No answer to that I guess..

No that's absolutely fine

Do you mind if I send the image to someone more experienced on here for a second opinion and to see what they make of it as it is a bit baffling to me?