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Hello. This is a small part of a very long story which I won't bore you all with but....

I have a letter written my 'M Hazel' in 1929. The address at the top of the letter is 27 Gloucester Road, Regents Park. Having 'googled' this address, I can't seem to locate it and having very little knowledge of London, I'm not sure if the possibilities that are popping up are likely. I realise this letter is 80 years old, but are there any sites which can trace the history of the occupants of an address up until fairly recently??

I'd really like to be able to trace this person as I believe she may have been the sister of my estranged great grandfather.

Many thanks in advance for any tips or ideas anyone can offer,

Kelly x

I can see 2 immediate possibilities:

1. Look (or get someone to look!) on electoral register for that address in and around 1929

2. Look for this person's birth to see if there is a match with your great-grandfather. You need to know your great-grandfather's parents' names really, and his year of birth.

It would help to know what reg. district regents park comes under to look 1911.

Jan

Hi Jan,

Thanks for your message. I don't know my great grandfather's parents names. I'm presuming 'M Hazel' used to be 'M Nicholls' although this isn't necessarily the case particularly as the only marriages i can find between a Hazel and Nicholls aren't a match...

How do you search the electoral rolls for 1929?? (wouldn't know where to start looking!!)

These are normally held at the library nearest to the area. I have a feeling it might be Westminster, but you need a Londoner to advise! There are 3 options:
Go yourself
Ask for a kind GR member to go for you!
Contact the place and see if they will look - they might charge

I suggest though that you take your tree back a bit first, you never know you might come across this person. If you want to give all details for your great-grandfather would be happy to give it a go.

EDIT there you are - Somersetgirl has sorted it out for you!

Jan

Hi, thanks Somerset Girl - I've just mailed the library. Even if they can't help, hopefully they'll shove me off in the direction of someone who can!!

And thanks Jan but I can't go back any further on the family tree - which is why I'm clutching at straws with this letter. My great grandfather disappeared and took everything with him - we don't know who his parents were or even when or where he was born. But we do have this letter from his sister, to my great grandmother - it's all I have!!!!!!!

Regards,
Kelly x

Kelly, I'll have none of that! We here like the impossible challenge. Up to you but if you are willing to post the earliest info you are certain of - grandfather's marriage or birth say - there is a fighting chance it can be taken back further.
Jan

Kelly - Gloucester Road is quite a long road running from Kensington High Street in the north to Brompton Road in the south. It is situated just to the south of Hyde Park. Regents Park is just a litte further north. It may well come under Kensington registration district.

Why don't you put all the details you have, however few, on this board. It's amazing what people can find!

Sue

Ok, here's what I have...

Frederick Nicholls b 1895c (this year is based on his marriage cert and is very likely incorrect - more likely to have been born anything up to 10 years earlier). He was a Bricklayer. Claimed to have come from Gloucestershire although only known location was Devon.

Married Dulcie Ethelyn Rowe in Aug 1925 in Totnes, Devon. Marriage Cert gives his father as William Henry Nicholls (deceased) - House Builder. His wife and children never met his family. The only contact was this letter addressed to Dulcie from 'M Hazel' in 1929 enquirig about her brother's health. We presume the 'M' is female otherwise 'he' would have the surname Nicholls, although not necessarily!

Frederick abandoned the family in around 1938 and was found in Plymouth and prosecuted but he soon disappeared again. He may have gone back to Plymouth. Rumour had it that he was having a relationship with his landlady in Plymouth - no idea where... Would be nice to find out his background and any possible living relations, or what actually happened to him. It's possible he had another family either before or after the one with Dulcie.

Have tried looking at this from all sorts of angles but have found absolutely nothing. Ordered various birth certs from Gloucestershire, marriage certs between a Nicholls and a Hazel....nowt!

Would be nice to be able to find out something for my grandmother who has always wondered what happened to her father.

Nudge for Kelly.

This is the only Nicholls Hazel marriage coming up for the time frame:

Marriages Mar 1929 (>99%)
Hanley Norah Leppard Wandsworth 1d 831 Scan available - click to view
Hazel Elsie H C Nicholls Wandsworth 1d 831 Scan available - click to view
Leppard Harold J Hanley Wandsworth 1d 831 Scan available - click to view
Nicholls James E Hazel Wandsworth 1d 831 Scan available - click to view

There are a few with Hazel with two 'l's:

Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)
Nicholls Hilda Hazell Dudley 6c 107 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
Nicholls Mabel Hazell Brentford 3a 244 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Jun 1929 (>99%)
Nicholls Julie M Hazell Cardiff 11a 737 Scan available - click to view

Dulcie Ethelyn is quite a strange name - could it be Dulcie Eleanor?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Dulcie Eleanor Rowe
Name: Dulcie Eleanor Rowe
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bedminster
County: Gloucestershire, Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 679 (click to see others on page)

1901 England Census
about Delsie Rowe
Name: Delsie Rowe
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George T
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol

Civil parish: Bristol
Ecclesiastical parish: Bedminster St Paul
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: Bedminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
George T Rowe 37
Emily Rowe 37
Delsie Rowe 13
Ivy Rowe 9
George Rowe 6
Oley Rowe 5

On this census it says Dulcie's father comes from Plymouth:


1891 England Census
about Delsie L Rowe
Name: Delsie L Rowe
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George T
Mother's Name: Emily A
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Bedminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Bristol
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: Bedminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George T Rowe 27
Emily A Rowe 27
Delsie L Rowe 3

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There is this one, father is a general labourer. Tetbury is not tthat far from Bristol:


1891 England Census
about Fred Nicholls
Name: Fred Nicholls
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Tetbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Tetbury
Town: Tetbury
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Tetbury
Sub-registration district: Tetbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Nicholls 40
Sarah Nicholls 47
John Nicholls 15
Clare Nicholls 13
Edward Nicholls 10
Fred Nicholls 7
Wm Nicholls 4

Actually, cancel that last one, this looks much better:


1891 England Census
about Frederick Nicholls
Name: Frederick Nicholls
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Roche, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: St Austell
Ecclesiastical parish: Treverbyn
Town: Hensbarrow
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Austell
Sub-registration district: St Austell
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Nicholls 47
Jane Nicholls 46
John Nicholls 20
Lilly Nicholls 17
Willie Nicholls 14
Emily Nicholls 11
Frederick Nicholls 8
Ellen Nicholls 5
Richard Moss 80

I think that father William is a clay labourer (house building, bricks, etc...) and at the top of the census page is a Jane Rowe, aged 71.

Same family in 1901. Father and son are clay quarrymen:


1901 England Census
about Frederick Nicholls
Name: Frederick Nicholls
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Roche, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: St Austell
Ecclesiastical parish: Treverbyn St Peter
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Austell
Sub-registration district: St Austell
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
William Nicholls 57
Elizabeth Jane Nicholls 56
Emily Nicholls 21
Frederick Nicholls 18
Ellen Nicholls 15
Thomas Nicholls 59

Just posting this as a 'possible' for Frederick's father on 1911 - William - Retired Builder, born Gloucester???

BAYLIS, Albert Ernest Head Married 22 years M 44 1867 Master Tailor Maker Gloucester Gloshire
BAYLIS, Martha Anne Wife Married 22 years F 42 1869 Birmingham Camp Head
BAYLIS, John William Ernest Son M 20 1891 Engineer Draughtsman Lancashire Nelson
BAYLIS, Nelson Frank Son M 18 1893 Military Clerk Cheltenham Glosshire
BAYLIS, Horace Victor Pryce Son M 14 1897 Tailors Apprentice Birmingham Saltley
BAYLIS, Dorothea Miriam Annie Daughter F 8 1903 School Cheltenham Glosshire

NICHOLS, William Father In Law Married 46 years M 68 1843 ***Retired Builder*** Tewkesbury Glosshire
NICHOLS, Susannah Mother In Law Wife F 66 1845 Tewkesbury Glosshire

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
15300 Reference:
RG14PN15300 RG78PN926 RD325 SD3 ED6 SN55

Registration District:
Gloucester Sub District:
Gloucester Southern EnumerationDistrict:
6 Parish:
Gloucester

Address:
34 Stroud Road Gloucester County:
Gloucestershire

I will see if I can follow it backwards, if only to discount it?

Dea x

1901 England Census
about William Nicholls
Name: William Nicholls
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sushanna
Gender: Male
Where born: Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Gloucester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Gloucester
Sub-registration district: South Hamlet
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 130
Household Members:
Name Age
William Nicholls 56
Sushanna Nicholls 55
James Nicholls 32
Minnie Nicholls 26

1891 England Census
about William Nicholls
Name: William Nicholls
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susan E
Gender: Male
Where born: Tewkesbury

Civil parish: Barton St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Gloucester
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Gloucester
Sub-registration district: South Hamlet
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Nicholls 45
Susan E Nicholls 44
Florance Nicholls 19
Minnie Nicholls 14
Edith Nicholls 13