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Chris

You have added to a very old thread. Click on Jackie’s name and send her a pm as she is unlikely to spot your post.

If she has kept her contact details up to date Genes will notify her.

I've been doing a bit of Hoy research and I think Emmaline may have used the surname Bell as a decoy to lose her estranged husband ,poor old Benjamin ,as they seem to have gone their separate way inbetween 1881 and 1891 and he's living in (what looks like) a boarding house in London in the 1891 census and she's down in leafy Farnham "Living by her own means"

Thank you

Dee x

Dee, click on the words 'old search' at the top right hand corner of the page, just under the banner heading

Well done both of you! I suspect she used a different name, Benjamin states he's single in 1891.

Choccy, how do I go back to using the old Ancestry please?

Dee x

1891 England Census
Name: Emeline Bell
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Plaplsford Abbots, Essex, England

Civil parish: Farnham
Ecclesiastical parish: Farnham St Johns Hale
Town: Farnham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Farnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emeline Bell 43
George Bell 16
William Bell 15
Eleanor Bell 10
Edgar H Bell 9
Henry Perkins 55
Annie Bicknell 24




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 568; Folio 100; Page 52; GSU roll: 6095678.


definitely says 'Bell' and not 'Hoy', but think it is the Hoy family!


Beat me to it Richard!

everything fits apart from surname.

1891
Name: Emeline Bell
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Plaplsford Abbots, Essex, England

Civil parish: Farnham
Ecclesiastical parish: Farnham St Johns Hale
Town: Farnham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Farnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Emeline Bell 43
George Bell 16 plumstead
William Bell 15 plumstead
Eleanor Bell 10 carshalton
Edgar H Bell 9 carshalton
Henry Perkins 55
Annie Bicknell 24

richard

here's Eleanor in 1901

1901 England Census
Name: Eleanor Hoy
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Carshalton, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Godalming
Ecclesiastical parish: Busbridge St John
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Godalming
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Edward G Jenkinson 65
Annabella G Jenkinson 70
Mary L Jenkinson 27
Martha Wiggins 38
Alice Regas 26
**************Eleanor Hoy 22




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 606; Folio: 152; Page: 5.

Hi Dee, I'm still using the old layout! Can't get used to the new one ...

Thank you Artbeat and Choccy, I'm finding difficult to find people on the new Ancestry layout.

Dee x

1891 England Census
Name: Benjamin Hay
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Barkway, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: St John The Evangalist Westminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St John Westminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Cusdin 49
Mary G Cusdin 45
Elizabeth Cusdin 23
Kate Cusdin 19
Edward Cusdin 22
William G Cusdin 16
Henry Cusdin 13
Alfred Cusdin 9
Lellan E Cusdin 7
Percy G Cusdin 5
Alice Downham 16
Benjamin Hay 49
John Small 28




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 78; Folio 46; Page 39; GSU roll: 6095188.

1901

Name: Emmeline J Hoy
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Stapleford Abbots, Essex, England

Civil parish: Grayshott
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Grayshott
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Alton
Sub-registration district: Binsted
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91a
Household Members:
Name Age
Emmeline J Hoy 56 widow
Walter A Hoy 30
Emmeline J Hoy 28
Edgar H Hoy 19
Zillah Hoy 9
William Andrews 21

richard

Please could anyone find this family on the 1891 and 1901? This is them on the 1881 census. Emmeline died in 1904, I don't know about Benjamin. They could be anywhere because they moved around but quite likely in Hampshire.

Thank you for looking

Dee x


Benjamin Hoy
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emmeline J.
Gender: Male
Where born: Barkway, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Carshalton
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: Prince Alfred Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Journeyman Miller
Registration district: Epsom
Sub-registration district: Carshalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Hoy 39
Emmeline J. Hoy 36
Benjamin C. Hoy 14
Annie M. Hoy 12
Walter A. Hoy 10
Emmeline Hoy 8
George J. Hoy 6
William T. Hoy 4
Louisa E. Hoy 3
Eleanor C. Hoy 1
Alfred Dixon 35
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 757; Folio: 12; Page: 19; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341178.