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2 Oct 2009 23:08 |
1841 census - household transcription Person: MANSFIELD, Sarah Address: Kingsland Road, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets COWLES, Giles M 55 1786 Middlesex VIEW COWLES, Jane F 45 1796 Middlesex VIEW COWLES, Harriet F 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW COWLES, Hannah F 20 1821 Middlesex VIEW COWLES, Harriet F 2 1839 Middlesex VIEW MERRET, Charles M 35 1806 VIEW MERRET, Jane F 25 1816 VIEW HOLT, James M 20 1821 Middlesex VIEW MANSFIELD, Sarah F 65 1776 Middlesex VIEW WELLING, Mary F 20 1821 Middlesex
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2 Oct 2009 23:07 |
Some Mansfield families living Shoreditch.
1841 census - household transcription Person: MANSFIELD, Silvia Address: Kingsland Road, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets MANSFIELD, Richard M 45 1796 Middlesex VIEW MANSFIELD, Harriott F 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW MANSFIELD, Silvia F 13 1828 Middlesex
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2 Oct 2009 21:00 |
I think you will also find Gayton is a northamptonshire parish
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2 Oct 2009 20:54 |
http://morleywithyhambuckland.blogspot.com/
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2 Oct 2009 19:44 |
I'm Back AS
What I was doing was looking at the Much Hadham baptism and trying to find a link with the names. Looked for Sumertons and Mansfield in Much Hadham. but came up with nothing.
Looking at it as a surname indicates their may be a marriage at some point with that surname.
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2 Oct 2009 12:01 |
You have my head in a spin. I never would have put that particular slant on a given name. I always thought it was a most unfortunate choice for a man to be so named. I'm trying to think of a parallel - like Carson or Jackson being used as a given name. I googled the idea and came up with information on that concept.
The names have been handed down through about four generations. This is what I have to sort out. Will start tomorrow afternoon. I shall return.
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2 Oct 2009 09:21 |
1881 census - household transcription Person: GAYTON, Francis Carteret Address: Cornwall County Lunatic Asylum, Bodmin Municipal Borough GAYTON, Francis Carteret Medl Officer Single M 26 1855 Surgeon M.R.C.S. L.S.A. & M.B. & M.C.S. Much Hadham Hertfordshire
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2 Oct 2009 09:19 |
1861 census - household transcription Person: GAYTON, Sarah Ann Address: Village, Great Hadham GAYTON, George Head Married M 49 1812 Solicitor Wimbish Essex VIEW GAYTON, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 36 1825 Much Hadham Hertfordshire VIEW GAYTON, Mary L Daughter F 13 1848 Much Hadham Hertfordshire VIEW GAYTON, H L Daughter F 9 1852 Much Hadham Hertfordshire VIEW GAYTON, Charles Son M 8 1853 Much Hadham Hertfordshire VIEW GAYTON, Francis C Son M 6 1855 Much Hadham Hertfordshire VIEW GAYTON, E W Son M 4 1857 Much Hadham Hertfordshire VIEW GAYTON, A W Daughter F 2 1859 Much Hadham Hertfordshire VIEW GRUMBALL, Hannah Servant Unmarried F 33 1828 Servant ... Hertfordshire VIEW SCAGGS, Hannah Servant Unmarried F 24 1837 Servant ... Hertfordshire VIEW KINSEY, Emma Servant Unmarried F 17 1844 Servant Bishop Stortford Hertfordshire VIEW GOULD, Elizabeth Servant Widow F 60 1801 Servant Little Hadham Hertfordshire
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2 Oct 2009 09:15 |
1851 census - household transcription Person: GAYTEN, George Address: Village, Much Hadham Cost: You will be charged 3 credits for a transcript and 3 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records. census search results all search results redefine current search Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GAYTEN, George Head Married M 38 1813 Solicitor & Attorney Wimbish Essex VIEW GAYTEN, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 26 1825 Wife M Hadham Hertfordshire VIEW GAYTEN, Mary Louisa Daughter Unmarried F 3 1848 M Hadham Hertfordshire VIEW GAYTEN, George Henry Son Unmarried M 1 1850 M Hadham Hertfordshire VIEW DRAGE, Eliza Servant Unmarried F 25 1826 Cook Hormead Essex VIEW BALDOCK, Mary Ann Servant Unmarried F 23 1828 Housemaid Ware Hertfordshire VIEW GRIGGS, Mary Servant Unmarried F 22 1829 Nursemaid Stanstead Essex
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2 Oct 2009 09:13 |
1841 census - household transcription Person: GAYTON, George Address: Village, Much Hadham
GAYTON, George M 25 1816 VIEW CHURCH, Ann F 35 1806 Hertfordshire VIEW
Interesting
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2 Oct 2009 09:06 |
Rest?
I am off to work. Nose to the grindstone stuff. Might pop in if I get a lunchbreak.
See ya.
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2 Oct 2009 08:55 |
I thought I recognised your style my good woman. I said to myself, self, I wonder if that could be, oh no don't be silly.
Now we know that the Mansfield comes from Elizabeth Mansfield, Thomas Summerton's wife. Never thought of the Gayton being a family name.
I have five pages of data I have cut and pasted about the family. I also have another Gayton Mansfield Summerton in Australia who does not appear to have any connectiion to the family I am researching.
I am at the writing it all down point in this research. I must enjoy being driven batty, why can't I have inherited a few Smiths with whom to cope.
By the way I thought the new Parish records might give me the marriage of CEC and MIEK. No such jolly luck. They are still on my personna non grata list of villains.
You know I thank you for your assistance. Off to rest the eyes and the brain before phase two of this mess.
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2 Oct 2009 08:25 |
Aha
Gayton Shinn's mother was Rachel Gayton so it was a surname.
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2 Oct 2009 08:21 |
This is the sum of the BMD just using Gayton
Marriages Jun 1842 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUMMERTON Gayton Banbury 16 29
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1854 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shinn Gayton Mildenhall 4a 437
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Mar 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Strahan Gayton Liverpool 8b 180
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1866 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BAYLIS Gayton H Winslow 3a 449
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1869 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Baylis Gayton Humphrey 3 Winslow 3a 336
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1875 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REDGRAVE Gayton Loddon 4b 205
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1877 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMITH Gayton Warwick W. Derby 8b 341
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SHINN Gayton Mildenhall 4a 917
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1884 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flew Gayton Barton R. 6a 94
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1910 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRICE Gayton E Wandsworth 1d 579
Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hughes Gayton C Jones Cardiff 11a 778
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1919 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Butler Gayton Sproston St. Giles 1b 1247 Sparks Gayton C Jones Conway 11b 1124
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1922 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Taylor Gayton C Thorpe Leicester 7a 415
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1926 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summers Gayton J Love Pontypridd 11a 859
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1930 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nightingale Gayton Farrar Halifax 9a 507
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Mar 1930 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shinn Gayton 76 Mildenhall 4a 1093
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1931 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fathers Gayton Thomas Pontypridd 11a 1257
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1934 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Boneham Gayton R Willey Lutterworth 7a 9
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1936 (98%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Price Gayton E Wilson Sheffield 9c 1201
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2 Oct 2009 08:19 |
Hi AS
(Formerley Christine aka good fairy of Kimberley Thread)
Gayton is a rare name. Around 5 on Bmd, Sumerton is unusual but there are spelling variations.
I just googled Gayton Mansfield Summerton and came up with those. You will obviously need to check them but they are clues.
There are no omertons left in Much Hadham in the censuses.
It could be worth following the other Gaytons as it could be a family name passed through daughters.
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2 Oct 2009 04:25 |
OK You clever person. How do you lot do it. I spent hours and hours looking for this pesky mob. So what do we have.
1841 Census Kings Sutton, is what I have been looking for. Note the Gayton name, no one could miss that, poor child!! I have to look at this I think this Gayton may be the grandson. If Thomas is 70, Elizabeth is missing, George and Gayton were Thomas's sons. And Gayton's son was Gayton as well. But they went to Australia in 1842. I need the next step in the chain, some of which I have. Need to clarify this.
Don't know about the other George Summerton family at Clipston. May be related. Will say no connection with reservations at this stage.
I have Thomas and Elisabeth's marriage details. That is where the "witness to mariage Daniel Mansfield" comes from on the Banns certificate.
Curious Fox entry. I am aware of this entry. It is not me but I have communicated with the person concerned. She is also researching the Summerton family and is perched on top of the wobbly brick wall like I am.
I am most intrigued by the Mansfield Summerton rootschat article. I need to go over that very carefully. It will take me a while to decipher the info it contains. At first glance is seems like someone has a few half truths from two families and put them together. There is definitely a connection.
The same goes for the next article I am wondering if the person who posted the Curious Fox message may also have instigated that message.
Well I was a bit sceptical when I put up this new thread having driven myself crazy for a good couple of days. Once again I have been shown that the information is there to be found, it just depends on the level of your research skills. I'm going to stand in a corner facing the wall for ten minutes, my skills need improving.
Thank you for sharing your expertise.
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2 Oct 2009 04:03 |
Oh heavens. I have been out on a shopping expedition with OH. Seeing I'm on holidays thought I would go into the big smoke to the markets.
Had a lovely time.
My apologies for not responding to your posts. ive me a fe minutes to look at what is there and I'll give you a response.
By the way, thaaaaaaank you, thankyou thank you!!!!
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2 Oct 2009 01:21 |
Wakey wakey Time you got up.
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2 Oct 2009 01:15 |
http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/LONDON/2004-07/1091238195
Hi Listers, I am in a quandry as to this couple, my 3x great Grandparents. Thomas SUMMERTON married Elizabeth MANSFIELD in St Leonards, Shoreditch on 23rd Jan 1803. Prior to that I know nothing of their parentage, age, birthplace etc...a complete mystery!!!
HOWEVER...I do know that they had 2 sons, Gayton Mansfield SUMMERTON - christened in Much Hadham 1809 [ my 2x great grandfather] Edward SUMMERTON - - christened in Much Hadham 1812 Apart from their christening, I know Gayton's line from 1842 onwards in Australia and nothing of Edward.
On the marriage cert of Gayton [shoemaker] to Ann COLLINGRIDGE nee HARDY in Banbury April 1842, occupation of Thomas Summerton was recorded as 'gardener'. Can SKS help me work out where Thomas and Elizabeth hailed from and who there parent's were etc??? . I wonder also why they would get married in St Leonards Shoreditch yet have the boys christened in Much Hadham.Any ideas would be great. I would be immensely grateful of any help I can get on this family
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2 Oct 2009 01:11 |
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1842 (>99%) COLLINGRIDGE Ann Banbury 16 29 TAYLOR Elizabeth Banbury 16 29
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