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Summerton, Sumerton 1809-1842

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AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 4 Oct 2009 21:40

And the Elizabeth Mansfield age 70 in the 1841 census would have a dob of about 1771. That is also Elizabeth Summerton nee Mansfield's approximate date of birth. Her mother would have a date of birth around 1751.

Am I reading that info correctly??!

I like the Daniel. I couldn't find any reference to him and the given name Daniel is not continued through into the descendants. Need to wonder why particularly as this family was very big on continuing names.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 4 Oct 2009 21:34

George, son of Thomas and Elizabeth died in 1895. The George who died in 1841 could have been a brother to Thomas. Our information starts with Thomas christened 1809.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 Oct 2009 21:24

When I added this one You had not given me a clue about her date of birth and I was looking to see if posssible parents were still in Shoreditch

Possible mother?

1841 census - household transcription
Person: MANSFIELD, Elizth
Address: Duncan Court, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets

DYKE, John M 85 1756 Middlesex VIEW
DYKE, Mary F 85 1756 Middlesex VIEW
MANSFIELD, Elizth F 70 1771 Middlesex VIEW
SEBLY, Benjmin M 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
SEBLY, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Middlesex VIEW
STEELS, Henry M 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
STEELS, Mary F 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
CRIPPLE, Susan F 6 1835 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, Mary F 40 1801 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, Abram M 14 1827 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, George M 10 1831 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, James M 7 1834 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, John M 5 1836 Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 Oct 2009 21:18

can't remember if we found this

Deaths Dec 1841 (>99%)
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SUMMERTON G* Banbury 16 5

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 Oct 2009 21:06

I am finding few results for Daniel.

This one is not too far away

DANIEL MANSFIELD Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: MARGARET PERFECT Family
Marriage: 22 AUG 1814 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 4 Oct 2009 21:06

Two other thoughts. Her Thomas died in c1843 so he should still be showing in the 1841 census unless of course he died earlier before the census in 1841. Then Elizabeth being on her own aged 70 would fit. However she would be Elizabeth Summerton and not Elizabeth Mansfield in the census.

The other possibility which is further away in a date match is the one with William as her father. William is used as a family name in the next generation.

This is all supposition. You can play tricks with any of the sets of names and still be incorrect.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 4 Oct 2009 20:56

We believe the possible date of birth is 1772. Elizabeth Summerton was buried aged 63 18 Dec 1835 Kings Sutton All Saints Northamptonshire. Husband Thomas, son George daughter Elizabeth Hawkins and grandson Gayton aged 6 are all buried there.

This is one of the pieces of information we are seeking.

I noticed on the marriage paper she spelled her name Elisabeth. This puts the 15 Mar 1770 as a possibility. However the middle name throws me for a bit. Would she not have used that on her marriage paper. Also there is a Daniel Mansfield who was witness at her marriage to Thomas.

These are all very tenuous links as her age may have been misstated and her name misspelt.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 Oct 2009 16:43

Do any of these stand out?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 Oct 2009 16:42


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ELIZABETH MANSFIELD Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 19 JUL 1789

Christening: 09 AUG 1789 Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM MANSFIELD Family
Mother: MARY



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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 Oct 2009 16:40

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ELISABETH STEVENS MANSFIELD Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 15 MAR 1770

Christening: 08 APR 1770 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: EDWARD MANSFIELD Family
Mother: SARAH


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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 Oct 2009 16:37

ELIZABETH MANSFIELD Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 19 MAY 1767

Christening: 25 MAY 1767 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES MANSFIELD Family
Mother: ELIZABETH




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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 Oct 2009 16:36

Do you have any idea when or where she was born? This is practically impossible at the moment.

poss
ELIZABETH MANSFIELD Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 14 SEP 1766 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

Parents:
Father: BENJAMIN MANSFIELD Family
Mother: ELIZABETH




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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 Oct 2009 16:14

1841 census - household transcription
Person: MANSFIELD, Anthony
Address: Paul Street, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets


TINDLER, Henry M 25 1816 VIEW
TINDLER, Ann F 35 1806 VIEW
TINDLER, Elzabeth F 2 1839 Middlesex VIEW
LIGETT, Wm M 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
LIGETT, Jane F 35 1806 VIEW
LIGETT, Ann F 3 1838 Middlesex VIEW
COLDMAN, John M 25 1816 VIEW
COLDMAN, Mary F 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
COLDMAN, Mary F 1 1840 Middlesex VIEW
MANSFIELD, Elenor F 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
MANSFIELD, Anthony M 30 1811 Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 Oct 2009 16:13

1841 census - household transcription
Person: MANSFIELD, Richard
Address: Kingsland Road, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets

MANSFIELD, Richard M 45 1796 Middlesex VIEW
MANSFIELD, Harriott F 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
MANSFIELD, Silvia F 13 1828 Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 Oct 2009 16:12

1841 census - household transcription
Person: MANSFIELD, Sarah
Address: Kingsland Road, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets



COWLES, Giles M 55 1786 Middlesex VIEW
COWLES, Jane F 45 1796 Middlesex VIEW
COWLES, Harriet F 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
COWLES, Hannah F 20 1821 Middlesex VIEW
COWLES, Harriet F 2 1839 Middlesex VIEW
MERRET, Charles M 35 1806 VIEW
MERRET, Jane F 25 1816 VIEW
HOLT, James M 20 1821 Middlesex VIEW
MANSFIELD, Sarah F 65 1776 Middlesex VIEW
WELLING, Mary F 20 1821 Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 Oct 2009 16:11

There are only a few Mansfield families in Shoreditch in 1841.
If Elizabeth married there 1803 it is possible that other Mansfield families in Shoreditch may be related. It is the only clue we have at the moment.


Possible mother?

1841 census - household transcription
Person: MANSFIELD, Elizth
Address: Duncan Court, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets

DYKE, John M 85 1756 Middlesex VIEW
DYKE, Mary F 85 1756 Middlesex VIEW
MANSFIELD, Elizth F 70 1771 Middlesex VIEW
SEBLY, Benjmin M 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
SEBLY, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Middlesex VIEW
STEELS, Henry M 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
STEELS, Mary F 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
CRIPPLE, Susan F 6 1835 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, Mary F 40 1801 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, Abram M 14 1827 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, George M 10 1831 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, James M 7 1834 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, John M 5 1836 Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 Oct 2009 23:13

I cannot see anything interesting there

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 Oct 2009 23:11

1841 census - household transcription
Person: MANSFIELD, Elenor
Address: Paul Street, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets
TINDLER, Henry M 25 1816 VIEW
TINDLER, Ann F 35 1806 VIEW
TINDLER, Elzabeth F 2 1839 Middlesex VIEW
LIGETT, Wm M 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
LIGETT, Jane F 35 1806 VIEW
LIGETT, Ann F 3 1838 Middlesex VIEW
COLDMAN, John M 25 1816 VIEW
COLDMAN, Mary F 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
COLDMAN, Mary F 1 1840 Middlesex VIEW
MANSFIELD, Elenor F 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
MANSFIELD, Anthony M 30 1811 Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 Oct 2009 23:10

1841 census - household transcription
Person: MANSFIELD, Elizth
Address: Duncan Court, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets
DYKE, John M 85 1756 Middlesex VIEW
DYKE, Mary F 85 1756 Middlesex VIEW
MANSFIELD, Elizth F 70 1771 Middlesex VIEW
SEBLY, Benjmin M 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
SEBLY, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Middlesex VIEW
STEELS, Henry M 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
STEELS, Mary F 30 1811 Middlesex VIEW
CRIPPLE, Susan F 6 1835 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, Mary F 40 1801 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, Abram M 14 1827 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, George M 10 1831 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, James M 7 1834 Middlesex VIEW
HARTLY, John M 5 1836 Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 2 Oct 2009 23:09

1841 census - household transcription
Person: MANSFIELD, James
Address: Shoreditch, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets


MORRITT, David M 50 1791 VIEW
MORRITT, Esther F 50 1791 VIEW
BONNY, Robert M 15 1826 VIEW
BIRD, Robert M 15 1826 VIEW
MANSFIELD, James M 15 1826 VIEW
CHALLIS, John M 15 1826 VIEW
GROVES, Jane F 40 1801 Middlesex VIEW
HELLYER, Henrietta F 50 1791 VIEW
SMITH, Thomas M 20 1821 VIEW
ARNOT, Philip M 30 1811 VIEW