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Hi Janey,Sounds like a bit of a five minute wonder then, O'h well never mind, it's really interesting though and I will have a bit of a google tomorrow, just asked my other half if he remembered seeing any of the films but he said he may have but couldn't remember.......... not doing too bad considering,with the very kind help of everyone I have found out more in one evening than in the past year. as you asked, just to recap, I asked for info on Hamilton's decendants

Christine, there's no reason to think that either daughter would have used both of her given names in the 1911 census. Most people didn't. It's more common for people using a middle name to do that, granted, but it can't be assumed.

1861 census - household transcription
Person: GERSCH, Hamilton
Address: 4, Thornton Street, St Mary Newington, Lambeth

GERSCH, Caroline Head Widow F 33 1828 Needlewoman
Chelsea
Middlesex VIEW
GERSCH, Ettienna Son M 13 1848 Scholar
Walworth
Surrey VIEW
GERSCH, Frederick P Son M 10 1851 Scholar
Walworth
Surrey VIEW
GERSCH, Hamilton Son M 7 1854 Scholar
Walworth
Surrey VIEW


This looks hopefull

Just realised you have a better version of that one from Ancestry.
Would it be better for me to delete unecesary and duplicates to reduce confusio as this is a confusing family.


I did qualify 1911 with an IF

Just thought they would be the first to examine. Only a short while before subscription is available

So I just deleted a bunch of bumph I was about to post about Geoffrey Gouriets and Gerald Gouriets (one of each in the show and law bizzes) because ... I read the passenger info Christine was posting and lost my train of thought, and thought that Victor was one of the people we were looking for. He isn't.

So the summary I was wanting:

Louis Hamilton Gouriet b1879 Q4
Agnes Amy Gouriet b1883 Q3 (Amy Agnes)
Elizabeth Blanch Gouriet b1885 Q3
May Caroline Gouriet b1887 Q3

are the people we're looking for.

If you know that Agnes Amy became Amy Agnes then it seems you have some record of her that you haven't mentioned??

And these could be May Caroline

HOUSEHOLD ALDRIDGE CAROLINE MAY F 1889 22 Edmonton Middlesex
HOUSEHOLD BELEH CAROLINE MAY F 1887 24 St Pancras London
HOUSEHOLD BRATT MAY CAROLINE F 1887 24 Camberwell London
HOUSEHOLD COCKRAM MAY CAROLINE F 1890 21 Edmonton Middlesex
HOUSEHOLD HASTINGS MAY CAROLINE F 1884 27 St Pancras London
HOUSEHOLD RUSSELL CAROLINE MAY F 1887 24 Swindon Wiltshire

IF she married and used her full forename I have narrowed her down to these in 1911

HOUSEHOLD BARNES BLANCHE ELIZABETH F 1886 25 Fulham London
HOUSEHOLD BOTTRELL BLANCHE ELIZABETH F 1886 25 Willesden Middlesex
HOUSEHOLD MINCHIN BLANCHE ELIZABETH F 1884 27 Worcester Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD MITTON ELIZABETH BLANCHE F 1884 27 St George London
HOUSEHOLD NEWMAN ELIZABETH BLANCHE F 1883 28 Dartford Kent
HOUSEHOLD THOMAS BLANCHE ELIZABETH ANN F 1888 23 St Pancras London

Aren't we looking for Elizabeth Blanch and May Caroline?

First thing I did was get a complete list of GOURIET events at FreeBMD ...

Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%)
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Boughton William Charles Islington 1b 418
Brook Elizabeth Grace Islington 1b 418
Gouriet Elizabeth Caroline S Islington 1b 418
Pearson William Islington 1b 418

not elizabeth blanche as she would be too young

1911 census

MACE JULIA E 1861 50 Poplar London
MACE CHARLES E 1864 47 Poplar London

No Mace or anyone with surname starting with G living with them.

This person is living with them ...

BARTLETT JAMES E 1882 29 Poplar London

Deaths Jun 1857 (>99%)
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Gouriet Caroline Jan Kamilton Pancras 1b 79



I'm back now

well done Janey

Births Mar 1852
Gouriet Caroline Jane Hamilton Newington 1d 188

She was a sister who didn't survive.

Deaths Jun 1857
Gouriet Caroline Jan Kamilton Pancras 1b 79

Do you know what connection these two are to your family?


Births Jun 1913
Gouriet Victor D (Stokes) Portsmouth 2b 779

Births Jun 1916
Gouriet Geoffrey G (Stokes) Lambeth 1d 836


The mother must have been previously married, because there is no Gouriet-Stokes marriage.

I ask, because Geoffrey's daughter was the second wife of Martin Richard Attlee, 2nd Earl Attlee. (They married when he was 60 and she was 39, ish.)

http://www.thepeerage.com/p4471.htm#i44709

Births Mar 1852 (>99%)
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Gouriet Caroline Jane Hamilton Newington 1d 188


hmmm

Christine, read the passenger list info the other Christine posted. It gives his occupation as actor. So when I googled his name, it connected.


This seems to be his complete filmography:

http://www.starpulse.com/celebrity/Victor_Gouriet/P208707/0/1/

Filmography:
1935 Heritage
1934 Two Minutes' Silence
1933 In the Wake of the Bounty

-- at least movies that are still known today, I imagine. An Australian film expert might know more. I have a well-known film expert in the family, but his specialty is early French and modern Latin American, I'm afraid. ;)

You can click on the movies at that link for more info.

Janey, so sorry, didnt even know I had actually started a new thread, as I said I'm new to all this, sorry.....

Wow, actors in the family too? will have to look into that, Thanx

Want a picture?

http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2607383

Andrew Higginson as "The Prince" and Victor Gouriet as "Baron Popoff"

Click on the picture there to enlarge it - and you can order a digital copy.


(Amazing coincidence -- my name-shifting gr-grfather's sister showed up in the 1871 census as an actress, and I found a picture postcard of her on line!)


When I go home, I'll look in my most comprehensive movie book and see whether he's listed. ;)

Thanx Janey, this all ties in with my Hamilton

One thread per subject. For future ref.

So we're still looking for -- can you summarize?


I'm wondering about Victor, now that we know he left the building. Have you googled at all?

http://aso.gov.au/people/Victor_Gouriet/

Victor Gouriet
As a cast member:
In the Wake of the Bounty (1933)

Charles and Elsa Chauvel follow the path of the Bounty mutineers from Tahiti to the Pitcairn Islands, using dramatised scenes to re-create the events leading up to the …

This list shows all the titles currently on australianscreen that include Victor Gouriet in a principal role. It is not a comprehensive screenography.
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The passenger records show him as an actor.

There are numerous references on line, e.g.:

http://www.fandango.com/victorgouriet/filmography/p208707

Thanx for all the new info Christine you have given me a bit more to go on, they certainly seem to like travel as well as name changes

Sorry to all If I have done anything wrong but Im new to all this thread business so dont know the way of things, I'm willing to learn though. if someone will explain the rights and wrongs of things