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Christine

Christine Report 19 Sep 2009 21:14

Please can anyone help? My grandfather was born John Sidney Gouriet Q2 1881, I am looking for his siblings:

Louis Hamilton Gouriet b1879 Q4
Agnes Amy Gouriet b1883 Q3
Elizabeth Blanch Gouriet b1885 Q3
May Caroline Gouriet b1887 Q3

This family were very fond of name changes, hence it has become very difficult to follow them beyond the 1891c, at this time my grandfather and his siblings were all in various institutions, the name changes appear to have begun here, with my grandfather becoming - Sydney Hamilton Gouriet, he finally became Sidney John Mace, his sister Agnes Amy Gouriet became Amy Agnes Gouriet and his brother at a much later date changed his surname to Mace too. { Mace was the surname of their mothers second husband}

The family were all born London/Middlesex.

I would be so grateful for any help as this branch of my family is really driving me mad. Thanking all in anticipation. Chris

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 19 Sep 2009 21:25


Louis Hamilton Gouriet
Birth
1879
St Saviour Southwark,
England
, United Kingdom
Death
Parents & Siblings Hamilton Gouriet (1854-) Julia Louisa Watts ()
Spouse & Children No Spouse or Children
Timeline( View details )
1879
Birth
St Saviour Southwark
, England,
United Kingdom
Parents Hamilton Gouriet 1854 – Julia Louisa Watts Show siblings
Hide siblings Sidney John - John Sidney Mace - Gouriet 1881 – 1919 Agnes Amy Gouriet 1883 – Elizabeth Blanch Gouriet 1885 – May Caroline Gouriet 1887 – Spouse & Children
No Spouse or Childre

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 19 Sep 2009 21:32

Sydney Hamilton Gouriet
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Dartford
Ecclesiastical parish: Dartford Holy Trinity
Town: Dartford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: St Vincent Industrial School
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Sep 2009 21:33

not what you are looking for I realise but could this be a connection?



Jean Baptiste Gouriet Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 19 AUG 1847

Christening: 24 AUG 1847 St-Gervais, Paris, Seine, France

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Claude Louis Gouriet Family
Mother: Marie Louise Simon


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Christine

Christine Report 19 Sep 2009 21:34

Thanx Starr1, this is a very complex branch of my family and I only stumbled across the Gouriet's by accident as I was looking for Mace's,apart from my grandfather I seem to have hit a brick wall re the rest

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Sep 2009 21:36

just thought I'd add this - seems to be a coincidence?

AMY AGNES GOURIET Pedigree
Female Family


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Event(s):
Birth: 10 JUN 1885 , , India

Christening:
Death: 07 SEP 1951

Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: GEORGE STAFFERD KIRKHAM Family
Marriage:



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Messages:
Family group record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record includes the submitter's name and address and names and relationships of family members. The address may be outdated. Some information is estimated. To find the record on the film, you must know the batch and sheet number.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Sep 2009 21:37

You said on earlier thread that you had found Julia on 1911 census - does her age and place of birth match the 1881 census

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Sep 2009 21:38

stranger still!!! she's in Canada now!!!

AMY AGNES GOURIET Pedigree
Female Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death: 07 SEP 1951

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: LOUIS JOSEPH GOURIET Family
Mother: ELIZABETH GREEN


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Marriages:
Spouse: GEORGE STAFFERD KIRKHAM Family
Marriage: 11 NOV 1907 Innisfail, Alberta, Alberta



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Messages:
Family group record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record includes some persons who were alive and some who were deceased at the time of submission. The source films cannot be sent to family history centers and have limited access at the Family History Library.

Christine

Christine Report 19 Sep 2009 21:42

Thankyou Ann, Im sure that they are related somewhere along the line as apparently Gouriet is quite an unusual name even in France, which is why I thought it would be everso easy to trace!!!!!!!!!!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 19 Sep 2009 21:47

A good bunch of name-changers always catches my eye! (My gr-grfather and his sister having been champions.)

I always just like to see things in standard form to start.

1891 census

Name: Sydney Hamilton Gouriet
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: St Vincent Industrial School

Name: Amy Agnes Gouriet
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Inmate
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Hanwell
ED, institution, or vessel: Central London District School

Name: Elizabeth Gouriet
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Inmate
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Hanwell
ED, institution, or vessel: Central London District School

Name: May Gouriet
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Inmate
Where born: N
Civil parish: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: Camberwell Workhouse a

Christine

Christine Report 19 Sep 2009 21:48

Hi Glitterbabe, I have Julia, I have a copy of the marriage cert for Julia and Charles Edward Mace m1908

Christine

Christine Report 19 Sep 2009 21:50

Hi Ann, something funny here, I have been in contact with a Kirkham decendant but cant seem to tie this Amy Agnes in with my branch of the Gouriets

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 19 Sep 2009 21:51

Not middlesex but maybe

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1901 census - household transcription
Person: GOURIET, Amy E D
Address: 126, Lyham Road (Thornbury Terrace), Clapham


HUMPHREYS, George Head Married M 40 1861 Dairyman Shopkeeper
Terling
Essex VIEW
HUMPHREYS, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 37 1864
St Neots
Huntingdonshire VIEW
HUMPHREYS, Dorothy A Daughter Single F 10 1891
Chelsea
London VIEW
HUMPHREYS, Florence E Daughter Single F 8 1893
Chelsea
London VIEW
HUMPHREYS, Eva C Daughter Single F 2 1899
Chelsea
London VIEW
GOURIET, Amy E D Servant Single F 18 1883 General Servant Domestic
Paris (British Subject) VIEW
MATTHEWS, Fanny Visitor Widow F 65 1836
Staploe
Bedfordshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 19 Sep 2009 21:53

1901 census - household transcription
Person: GOURIET, Elizabeth
Address: Maldon Road, Witham


SYDES, William N Head Married M 29 1872 Banker's Clerk
Gt Waltham
Essex VIEW
SYDES, Constance Wife Married F 24 1877
Tunbridge Wells
Kent VIEW
SYDES, Richard A Son Single M 1 1900
Witham
Essex VIEW
SYDES, John E Son M 0 (1 MOS) 1901
Witham
Essex VIEW
GOURIET, Elizabeth Servant Single F 15 1886 General Servant Domestic
London VIEW



Christine

Christine Report 19 Sep 2009 21:54

Hi Janey, Louis Gouriet is to be found in the 1891c as Louis Gourieth, in St Marys Orphanage, North Hyde Heston

Christine

Christine Report 19 Sep 2009 21:59

Thanks Christine, think these are my family, sounds good anyhow

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 19 Sep 2009 22:02

Is this one yours cos she is on her own?

1891 census - household transcription
Person: GOURIET, Beatrice
Institution: South Eastern Hospital, New Cross Road



GOURIET, Beatrice Patient F 2 1889

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 19 Sep 2009 22:03

This is the only family in 1891

1891 census - household transcription
Person: GOURIET, Annie J
Address: 10, Pakenham Street, St Pancras


GOURIET, George A Head Married M 28 1863 Cab Driver
Birmingham VIEW
GOURIET, Annie M Wife Married F 26 1865
Finsbury
London VIEW
GOURIET, Annie J Daughter Single F 0 (5M) 1891
St Pancras
London

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 19 Sep 2009 22:07

Do you have a birth certificate? Is this by any chance their mother?


1881

Name: Julia E. Gouriet
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Servant
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Cook Domes Serv
Civil parish: Hampstead
(states unmarried, as "ditto", not necessarily reliable for a servant)


Marriages Mar 1879
? GOURIET Hamilton St Saviour Southwark 1d 113
Milton Jane St. Saviour 1d 113
SPENCER Arthur Herbert St. Saviour 1d 113
? WATTS Julia Louisa St. Saviour 1d 113

Births Mar 1854
Gouriet Hamilton Newington 1d 217


1871

Name: Hamilton Glourett
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Lodger
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Mary Newington

Nicholas Feuillade 62 - born Lambeth
Sarah Feuillade 64
> > Frederick Glourett 18 - labourer
Hamilton Glourett 16 - errand boy (I think that's what it means)

-- a brother. The more names, the better.

I would definitely go to Ancestry and correct that surname in the census record.

I wonder whether the Feuillades and Gouriets were related?


1861

Name: Hamilton Gouriet
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Caroline
Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Newington St Mary

Caroline Gouriet 33 - born Chelsea (unmarried crossed out, widow written over)
Ettienne Gouriet 13
Frederick P Gouriet 10
Hamilton Gouriet 7


1881

Name: Hamilton Gouriel
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Julia
Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England
Occupation: Labourer

Civil parish: Newington

Hamilton Gouriel 25
Julia Gouriel 21
Leurs Gouriel - 16 months
Child Gouriel - 5 weeks

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 19 Sep 2009 22:08

passenger transcript details
Name: Mr Victor GOURIET
Date of departure: 29 October 1912
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Yokohama, Japan
Passenger destination: Yokohama, Japan

Date of Birth: 1876 (calculated from age)
Age: 36
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Actor
Passenger recorded on: Page 5 of 7




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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
ARCADIA
93172
S Barcham
Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co
Bombay, India

3513
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