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Christine
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19 Sep 2009 21:14 |
Please can anyone help? My grandfather was born John Sidney Gouriet Q2 1881, I am looking for his siblings:
Louis Hamilton Gouriet b1879 Q4 Agnes Amy Gouriet b1883 Q3 Elizabeth Blanch Gouriet b1885 Q3 May Caroline Gouriet b1887 Q3
This family were very fond of name changes, hence it has become very difficult to follow them beyond the 1891c, at this time my grandfather and his siblings were all in various institutions, the name changes appear to have begun here, with my grandfather becoming - Sydney Hamilton Gouriet, he finally became Sidney John Mace, his sister Agnes Amy Gouriet became Amy Agnes Gouriet and his brother at a much later date changed his surname to Mace too. { Mace was the surname of their mothers second husband}
The family were all born London/Middlesex.
I would be so grateful for any help as this branch of my family is really driving me mad. Thanking all in anticipation. Chris
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EVEIE
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19 Sep 2009 21:25 |
Louis Hamilton Gouriet Birth 1879 St Saviour Southwark, England , United Kingdom Death Parents & Siblings Hamilton Gouriet (1854-) Julia Louisa Watts () Spouse & Children No Spouse or Children Timeline( View details ) 1879 Birth St Saviour Southwark , England, United Kingdom Parents Hamilton Gouriet 1854 – Julia Louisa Watts Show siblings Hide siblings Sidney John - John Sidney Mace - Gouriet 1881 – 1919 Agnes Amy Gouriet 1883 – Elizabeth Blanch Gouriet 1885 – May Caroline Gouriet 1887 – Spouse & Children No Spouse or Childre
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EVEIE
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19 Sep 2009 21:32 |
Sydney Hamilton Gouriet Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Gender: Male Where born: London, England Civil parish: Dartford Ecclesiastical parish: Dartford Holy Trinity Town: Dartford County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Dartford Sub-registration district: Dartford ED, institution, or vessel: St Vincent Industrial School Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
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AnnCardiff
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19 Sep 2009 21:33 |
not what you are looking for I realise but could this be a connection?
Jean Baptiste Gouriet Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 19 AUG 1847 Christening: 24 AUG 1847 St-Gervais, Paris, Seine, France Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Claude Louis Gouriet Family Mother: Marie Louise Simon
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Christine
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19 Sep 2009 21:34 |
Thanx Starr1, this is a very complex branch of my family and I only stumbled across the Gouriet's by accident as I was looking for Mace's,apart from my grandfather I seem to have hit a brick wall re the rest
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AnnCardiff
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19 Sep 2009 21:36 |
just thought I'd add this - seems to be a coincidence?
AMY AGNES GOURIET Pedigree Female Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 10 JUN 1885 , , India Christening: Death: 07 SEP 1951 Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: GEORGE STAFFERD KIRKHAM Family Marriage:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Family group record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record includes the submitter's name and address and names and relationships of family members. The address may be outdated. Some information is estimated. To find the record on the film, you must know the batch and sheet number.
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GlitterBaby
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19 Sep 2009 21:37 |
You said on earlier thread that you had found Julia on 1911 census - does her age and place of birth match the 1881 census
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AnnCardiff
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19 Sep 2009 21:38 |
stranger still!!! she's in Canada now!!!
AMY AGNES GOURIET Pedigree Female Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: 07 SEP 1951 Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: LOUIS JOSEPH GOURIET Family Mother: ELIZABETH GREEN
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: GEORGE STAFFERD KIRKHAM Family Marriage: 11 NOV 1907 Innisfail, Alberta, Alberta
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Family group record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record includes some persons who were alive and some who were deceased at the time of submission. The source films cannot be sent to family history centers and have limited access at the Family History Library.
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Christine
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19 Sep 2009 21:42 |
Thankyou Ann, Im sure that they are related somewhere along the line as apparently Gouriet is quite an unusual name even in France, which is why I thought it would be everso easy to trace!!!!!!!!!!
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JaneyCanuck
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19 Sep 2009 21:47 |
A good bunch of name-changers always catches my eye! (My gr-grfather and his sister having been champions.)
I always just like to see things in standard form to start.
1891 census
Name: Sydney Hamilton Gouriet Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Where born: London, England Civil parish: Dartford ED, institution, or vessel: St Vincent Industrial School
Name: Amy Agnes Gouriet Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Inmate Where born: Newington, Surrey, England Civil parish: Hanwell ED, institution, or vessel: Central London District School
Name: Elizabeth Gouriet Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Inmate Where born: Newington, Surrey, England Civil parish: Hanwell ED, institution, or vessel: Central London District School
Name: May Gouriet Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation: Inmate Where born: N Civil parish: Camberwell ED, institution, or vessel: Camberwell Workhouse a
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Christine
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19 Sep 2009 21:48 |
Hi Glitterbabe, I have Julia, I have a copy of the marriage cert for Julia and Charles Edward Mace m1908
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Christine
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19 Sep 2009 21:50 |
Hi Ann, something funny here, I have been in contact with a Kirkham decendant but cant seem to tie this Amy Agnes in with my branch of the Gouriets
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LadyKira
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19 Sep 2009 21:51 |
Not middlesex but maybe
sign out my account subscribe help & advice home family trees births, marriages & deaths census migration military living relatives more records 1901 census - household transcription Person: GOURIET, Amy E D Address: 126, Lyham Road (Thornbury Terrace), Clapham
HUMPHREYS, George Head Married M 40 1861 Dairyman Shopkeeper Terling Essex VIEW HUMPHREYS, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 37 1864 St Neots Huntingdonshire VIEW HUMPHREYS, Dorothy A Daughter Single F 10 1891 Chelsea London VIEW HUMPHREYS, Florence E Daughter Single F 8 1893 Chelsea London VIEW HUMPHREYS, Eva C Daughter Single F 2 1899 Chelsea London VIEW GOURIET, Amy E D Servant Single F 18 1883 General Servant Domestic Paris (British Subject) VIEW MATTHEWS, Fanny Visitor Widow F 65 1836 Staploe Bedfordshire
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LadyKira
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19 Sep 2009 21:53 |
1901 census - household transcription Person: GOURIET, Elizabeth Address: Maldon Road, Witham SYDES, William N Head Married M 29 1872 Banker's Clerk Gt Waltham Essex VIEW SYDES, Constance Wife Married F 24 1877 Tunbridge Wells Kent VIEW SYDES, Richard A Son Single M 1 1900 Witham Essex VIEW SYDES, John E Son M 0 (1 MOS) 1901 Witham Essex VIEW GOURIET, Elizabeth Servant Single F 15 1886 General Servant Domestic London VIEW
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Christine
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19 Sep 2009 21:54 |
Hi Janey, Louis Gouriet is to be found in the 1891c as Louis Gourieth, in St Marys Orphanage, North Hyde Heston
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Christine
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19 Sep 2009 21:59 |
Thanks Christine, think these are my family, sounds good anyhow
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LadyKira
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19 Sep 2009 22:02 |
Is this one yours cos she is on her own?
1891 census - household transcription Person: GOURIET, Beatrice Institution: South Eastern Hospital, New Cross Road
GOURIET, Beatrice Patient F 2 1889
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LadyKira
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19 Sep 2009 22:03 |
This is the only family in 1891
1891 census - household transcription Person: GOURIET, Annie J Address: 10, Pakenham Street, St Pancras
GOURIET, George A Head Married M 28 1863 Cab Driver Birmingham VIEW GOURIET, Annie M Wife Married F 26 1865 Finsbury London VIEW GOURIET, Annie J Daughter Single F 0 (5M) 1891 St Pancras London
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JaneyCanuck
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19 Sep 2009 22:07 |
Do you have a birth certificate? Is this by any chance their mother?
1881
Name: Julia E. Gouriet Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Servant Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England Occupation: Cook Domes Serv Civil parish: Hampstead (states unmarried, as "ditto", not necessarily reliable for a servant)
Marriages Mar 1879 ? GOURIET Hamilton St Saviour Southwark 1d 113 Milton Jane St. Saviour 1d 113 SPENCER Arthur Herbert St. Saviour 1d 113 ? WATTS Julia Louisa St. Saviour 1d 113
Births Mar 1854 Gouriet Hamilton Newington 1d 217
1871
Name: Hamilton Glourett Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Lodger Where born: Newington, Surrey, England Civil parish: St Mary Newington
Nicholas Feuillade 62 - born Lambeth Sarah Feuillade 64 > > Frederick Glourett 18 - labourer Hamilton Glourett 16 - errand boy (I think that's what it means)
-- a brother. The more names, the better.
I would definitely go to Ancestry and correct that surname in the census record.
I wonder whether the Feuillades and Gouriets were related?
1861
Name: Hamilton Gouriet Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Caroline Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England Civil parish: Newington St Mary
Caroline Gouriet 33 - born Chelsea (unmarried crossed out, widow written over) Ettienne Gouriet 13 Frederick P Gouriet 10 Hamilton Gouriet 7
1881
Name: Hamilton Gouriel Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Julia Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England Occupation: Labourer Civil parish: Newington
Hamilton Gouriel 25 Julia Gouriel 21 Leurs Gouriel - 16 months Child Gouriel - 5 weeks
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LadyKira
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19 Sep 2009 22:08 |
passenger transcript details Name: Mr Victor GOURIET Date of departure: 29 October 1912 Port of departure: London Passenger destination port: Yokohama, Japan Passenger destination: Yokohama, Japan Date of Birth: 1876 (calculated from age) Age: 36 Marital status: Sex: Male Occupation: Actor Passenger recorded on: Page 5 of 7
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ship: Official Number: Master's name: Steamship Line: Where bound: Square feet: Registered tonnage: Passengers on voyage: ARCADIA 93172 S Barcham Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co Bombay, India 3513 123
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