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and Ilene's baptism certificate says George is her father!


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Ilene Riding Chamley
Name: Ilene Riding Chamley
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 21 Oct 1904
Father's Name: George Riding Chamley
Mother's Name: Rosa Beatrice Chamley
Parish: Saint Peter, Paddington
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex


Address:- 22 Biddulph Mansions

Father's occupation:- Surveyor



I think you are going to have to go to the 1911 site, and buy the credits to look at the transcript, preferably the image, and see what the relationship is between those Thomas, Rosa Beatrice and Ilene



sylvia

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Rosa Beatrice Elkins
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902 <<<<< this is WRONG!!!
Spouse Name: George Chamley
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Sep 1902
Parish: St Andrew Holborn
County: London
Borough: City of London
Father Name: Alfred Elkins
Spouse Father Name: John Chamley



from actual image

George: Widower, Builder, of Full age, address H Holborn (???)
Father:- John Chamley, deceased,Officer in E I Army

Rosa:- of Full age, Spinster, no occupation given, address 108 Palace Road, Streatham
Father:- Alfred Elkins, Hosier



????? E I Army = East India Army???????



sylvia

Rosa Beatrice Elkins married same day as George Chamley 1902 sept qt London city gro ref 1c 13.

1911 census.
Thomas Riding Chamley 1840
Rosa Beatrix Chamley 1870
Ilene Riding Chamley 1905
living Croydon

Could someone help me and find a marriage for Thomas Chamley and Rosa Beatrix Elkins please

Well i have just seen someone else tree that i have access to and have now worked out who the person is, so im now going to see if i can find a marriage or any children for her (just in case)

Sam

Well I agree with Kathleen Bell. If the Heir Hunters had not gotten in touch with your aunt you wouldnt know anything about an estate.

They have done the work,paid for the certs etc. Let them see something for their efforts. Get auntie to sign up

Ok Jane is not a second wife there are two Thomas Chamleys from the same area (just my luck) mine is the one married to Matilda Ponting.
Thomas died March 1912 Wandsworth London age 71 yrs & Matilda died March 1923 Andover age 85 yrs, however i still havent been able to trace any children, so im still none the wiser as to where this estate is coming from apart from the fact that its a female who died in 2002. AHHHHHHH!!

Sam

1891

Name: Thomas Chamley
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Kendal, Westmorland, England

Civil parish: Streatham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Streatham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Chamley 52
Jane Chamley 48
Louisa Winchester 20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Visitor, born Bromley By Bow, London
Hannah Winchester 11 >>>>>>>>>>>>>Visitor, born Fulham London




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 454; Folio 88; Page 16; GSU roll: 6095564


Name: Louisa Winchester >>>>>Holy Trinity Upper Tooting
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Spouse Name: Charles James Hodges >>>>Police sergent
Spouse Age: 29
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Aug 1895
Parish: Saint John The Evangelist, Charlotte Street
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: John Winchester >>>>Gardener
Spouse Father Name: George Hodges >>>>Gardener

Cassy

On this page halfway down in the 1891 census it shows Thomas Chamley with wife Jane age 42 living at 19 Chetwode rd Wandsworth so could there be any children from this marriage?

1911

HOUSEHOLD CHAMLEY MATILDA F 1837 74 Andover Hampshire

no body else with same surname in household

Can't find any children


Cassy

Did Thomas have any children with second wife Jane if none with first wife Matilda?

Name: Matilda Thomas
[Matilda Chamley]
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Chamley
Gender: Female
Where born: Andover, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 255
Household Members: Name Age
Chamley Thomas 32 >>>>>>>>>>>builder's clerk
Matilda Thomas 35



Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1142; Folio: 74; Page: 43; GSU roll: 827786.


Name: Chamley Thomas
[Thomas R Chamley]
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Matilda
Gender: Male
Where born: Rendale, Westmorland, England
Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 255
Household Members: Name Age
Chamley Thomas 32
Matilda Thomas 35






Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1142; Folio: 74; Page: 43; GSU roll: 827786.


There's a John ( a Butcher ) and sarah A Ponting with sons John and Walter F Ponting living at same address.


1891

Name: Matilda Chamley
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Woodhouse, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Andover
Ecclesiastical parish: Andover St Mary
Town: Andover
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Andover
Sub-registration district: Andover
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matilda Chamley 52
Charles Aylmore 25 >>>>Boarder
George Smith 26 >>>>>>Boarder





Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 964; Folio 110; Page 17; GSU roll: 6096074.




Cassy

EDIT

Deaths Mar 1923 (91%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CHAMLEY Matilda 85 Andover 2c 279

Still cannot find children for Thomas Ryding Chamley

1881

Name: Matilda Chamley
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Housekeeper
Gender: Female
Where born: Woodhouse, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: Kings Head
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Housekeeper Dom Serv

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John W. Warden 30
Harry C. Warden 3
Richard (Jno) Warden 4
Matilda Chamley 43
Caroline M. Clark 16
Phillip Motts 39





Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1160; Folio: 44; Page: 28; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341284.

Cassy

This could well be him as first wife is living in Andover in 1891 and has two lodgers with her????????

Sam

possible for his mother
1891 census

Census Record: John Smith
Name Elizabeth Chamley
Age 70
Estimated Year of Birth 1821
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation RETIRED TEACHER
Address Church Street
District Kendal, Milnthorpe
Parish
Administrative County Westmorland
Birth Place East India
Birth County BOMBAY
in house
elizabeth head widow 70

hi found this one but not sure if its him
1891 census

Name Thomas Chamley
Age 52
Estimated Year of Birth 1839
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation SURVEYVOR
Address 19 Chetwode Road
District Wandsworth
Parish
Administrative County London
Birth Place Kendal
Birth County WESTMORLAND
in house
thomas head 52
jane wife 42

George Chamley would have been my great great grandfather and son Francis age 10 yrs was his adopted son.
But still no joy with finding any children for Thomas and Matilda Chamley?

Sam

1861 census

Name Thomas Ryding Chamley
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1839
Relationship to Head of Household LODGER
Occupation RAILWAY CLERK
Address Hill Top Victoria Terrace
District Pontefract, Knottingley
Parish
Administrative County Yorkshire
Birth Place Kendal
Birth County WESTMORLAND
in house
edwin llewellan pontstin head 45
sarah ann wife 45
hannah elizabeth 5
thomas ryding chamley lodger 22
john webb lodger 27
RG 9 / 3433

Name: George Chamley >>>>widower, builder
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Spouse Name: Rosa Beatrice Elkins
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Sep 1902
Parish: St Andrew Holborn
County: London
Borough: City of London
Father Name: John Chamley
Spouse Father Name: Alfred Elkins

witness: Alfred Elkins and Clara E Rivers


Cassy