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Debbie
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14 Sep 2009 22:02 |
Hi I've managed to trace the Bisphams as far back as my 2nd G.Grandfather, John, but have not been able to find anything further back. John was born in Ulverston, Cumbria, probably around 1824. He married Agnes Cleminson in 1844. He had 5 children, all born in Ulverston. William Bispham, b.3.12.1846 George Cleminson Bispham, b.1849 Ann Bispham, b.1856 Stephen Bispham, b.3.10.1858 John Bispham, b.1861
If anybody can help me go back any further, please get in touch. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Debbie
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BatMansDaughter
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14 Sep 2009 22:38 |
Hi Debbie.
I can't see anything to find his parents or siblings. I did find this though;
1861 England Census about John Bispin Name: John Bispin Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Mate Gender: Male Where born: Ulverston, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Vessels Town: Mounts Bay County/Island: Misc Ships At Sea or Abroad Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Misc Ships Sub-registration district: Misc Ships ED, institution, or vessel: Richard Roper Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age William Rawcliffe 53 John Bispin 37 Henry Rawlinson 22 Joseph Rawcliff 17 William Bispin 14 I see his occupation is a labourer 10 years later, could this be him in 1861?
I think you would need the marriage cert, hopefully it will give his fathers name and hopefully the witnesses maybe Bisphams .
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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14 Sep 2009 22:42 |
This tallies with the 1861 census;
1841 England Census about John Bispin Name: John Bispin Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Ulverstone Hundred: Lonsdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Ulverstone Sub-registration district: Ulverstone Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Bispin 45 <<<<<< cotton spinner Eleanor Bispin 41 John Bispin 17 <<<<<<<< painter apphrentice.
Image could be BISFAM!!!
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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14 Sep 2009 22:52 |
1861 England Census about William Bispham Name: William Bispham Age: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Haughton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Ulverston Town: Ulverston County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Ulverston Sub-registration district: Ulverston ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 48 Household Members: Name Age William Bispham 67 <<<<<<<<< cotton worker Ellen Bispham 61 Joshua Williamson 61 <<<<<<<<<< Lodger In 1851 William Bispin/Bispham was a cotton spinner......... this could be your Johns family, the marriage cert is what you need next to hopefully confirm William as Johns father!!!
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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14 Sep 2009 23:00 |
If william is found to be Johns father, tread carefully 'cos I just found this;
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about William Bispham Name: William Bispham Year of Registration: 1840 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Ulverston County: Cumbria, Lancashire Volume: 25 Page: 187 View Record
Preview Name: Eleanor Bewsher Year of Registration: 1840 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Ulverston County: Cumbria, Lancashire Volume: 25 Others on the same page, the top name concerns me........... Eleanor may not be Johns mother.
See more Eleanor Bewsher 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire View Record George Birkett 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire View Record William Bispham 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire View Record Mary Chapman 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire View Record Jane Davis 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire View Record William Love 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire View Record Ann Pickthall 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire View Record John Walton 1840
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:22 |
Baptism: 14 Oct 1823 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England Ann Bispin - Dau of William Bispin & Ellen Abode: Ulverston Occupation: Cottonspinner Notes: Twin Baptised by: J. Sunderland Minister Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 188, Entry 1499 Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:23 |
Baptism: 14 Oct 1823 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England John Bispin - Son of William Bispin & Ellen Abode: Ulverston Occupation: Cottonspinner Notes: Twin Baptised by: J. Sunderland Minister Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 188, Entry 1499 Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:25 |
Baptism: 2 May 1823 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England Agnes Cleminson - Dau of William Cleminson & Jane Abode: Ulverston Occupation: Husbandman Baptised by: J. Sunderland Minister Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 181, Entry 1441 Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:26 |
Baptism: 11 Aug 1822 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England Charles Cleminson - Son of Thomas Cleminson & Mary Abode: Ulverston Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: J. Sunderland Minister Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 169, Entry 1350 Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:27 |
Baptism: 5 Jul 1814 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England Edward Cleminson - Son of John Cleminson & Mary Born: 5 Jul 1814 Abode: Ulverston Occupation: Mariner Baptised by: John Sunderland Incumbent Curate Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:28 |
Baptism: 25 Aug 1818 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England Isabella Cleminson - Daughter of William Cleminson & Jane Born: 13 Aug 1818 Abode: Ulverston Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: J. Sunderland Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 96, Entry 763 Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:28 |
Baptism: 23 Jul 1816 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England John Cleminson - Son of William Cleminson & Jane Abode: Ulverston Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: J. Sunderland Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:29 |
Baptism: 9 Apr 1820 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England John Cleminson - Son of Thomas Cleminson & Mary Born: 2 Apr 1820 Abode: Ulverston Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: J. Sunderland Minister Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 126, Entry 1008 Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:30 |
Baptism: 30 Mar 1817 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England Sarah Cleminson - Daughter of John Cleminson & Mary Abode: Ulverstone Occupation: Mariner Baptised by: J. Sunderland Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:30 |
Baptism: 24 Sep 1820 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England William Cleminson - Son of William Cleminson & Jane Born: 15 Aug 1820 Abode: Ulverston Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: J. Sunderland Minister Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 134, Entry 1070 Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:37 |
Marriage: 13 Jan 1821 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England William Bispin - (X), Cotton Spinner Bachelor of Ulverston Eleanor Kendal - (X), Spinster of Ulverston Witness: William Ormandy; Eleanor Chamney Married by Banns by: J. Sunderland, Minister Register: Marriages 1821 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 101, Entry 301 Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:38 |
Marriage: 14 Jun 1779 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England James Clementson - Weaver of Ulverston Agnes Sandys - Spinster of Ulverston Married by Banns Register: Marriages 1771 - 1780 from the Bishops Transcripts, Page 1, Entry 144 Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:39 |
Marriage: 5 May 1777 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England William Clementson - of Ulverston Agnes Dickinson - of Ulverston Married by Banns Register: Marriages 1771 - 1780 from the Bishops Transcripts, Page 1, Entry 109 Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:40 |
Marriage: 24 Jan 1774 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England George Cleminson - of Ulverston Jane Brockbank - of Ulverston Married by Banns Register: Marriages 1771 - 1780 from the Bishops Transcripts, Page 1, Entry 51 Source: LDS Film 1040491
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LadyKira
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14 Sep 2009 23:40 |
Marriage: 21 Jul 1823 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England John Cleminson - (X), Weaver of Ulverston Mary Bagley - (X), Spinster of Ulverston Witness: John Athersmith; John Moss Married by Banns by: Martin Dunn, Off. Minister Notes: [No groom condition entered] Register: Marriages 1821 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 127, Entry 382 Source: LDS Film 1040491
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