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Yes i will thanks

You are very welcome Jacqueline,

Do come back when you have spoken to her and let us know if she remembers anything more.

Dea x

thanks dea and christine these look very possible i will put this new information to my mother something in your replies may jog her memory also i think i should get certificates now ive got something to go on .Just got in from work and found all these new messages thanks everone jackie x

You did most of the work Dea.

Hopefully Jacqueline will come back to the thread.

Christine

Thanks Christine - It looks like we 'have it cracked' then?

If only she would come back and take a look.

Thanks for the extra help.

Dea x

P.S. - I was looking at this death for John? - It is in Wales but then Elizabeth apparently died in Wales so you never know? (Actually, that 'bit' of Wales is closer to Lancashire than you might think!)

It fits with the marriage you have found, and the children's births so it is possible:

Deaths Jun 1918
Millar John J 25 Hawarden 11b 276

Dea x

Following on from Dea's finds. There is this marriage which looks like remarriage of Louisa to Riley, which is a name you mentioned.


Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)


Miller Louisa Riley Barton I. 8c 1356
Riley Isaac Millar Barton I. 8c 1356

Christine

Now then, - I believe this would be the correct marriage this time:
(note the spelling - Millar again with an 'a')

Marriages Mar 1913 (>99%)
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***Millar John J Pygott Barton I 8c 1087
Parkington William Waywell Barton I. 8c 1087
***Pygott Louisa Millar Barton I. 8c 1087
Waywell Elizabeth E Parkington Barton I. 8c 1087

Dea x

Very probable for the marriage:............
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Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
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HOLLAND John Chorlton 8c 1474
>>>>>MILLER Eleanor Coupland Chorlton 8c 1474
>>>>>PYGOTT John Willie Chorlton 8c 1474
ROYLE Matilda Chorlton 8c 1474

Dea x

EDIT! ......OOOps! - perhaps not as I have just noticed the surnames are the wrong way round. - I will leave it on though as it still may be connected?

Dea x

Looks like they could well have been born Miller OR Millar !!!!! - Only the certs will prove this !

I suggest that these two births are very probable ???

Births Mar 1915
MILLER Elizabeth Pygott Barton I. 8c 1263


Births Sep 1913
Millar Beatrice Pygott Barton I. 8c 1297

I will have a look further.

Dea x

Well get the marriage certificate and see what it says, that way you will know one way or other who she said her father was.

Did they not tell you this hobby of ours cost money to find thing out, the net does not tell you everything.

my mother told me that her mothers birth name wasnt miller sorry if it all seems a little vague we dont really know a lot about her you see as she left the family home when my mum was a young girl

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How do you know her birth name isn't Miller & that her Mum married again

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It would have been a great help if you had replied to my question

yes she did remarry and yes its possible it was gooding i will now go down that track thanks everyone and chocky you have been very helpful thanks

With a birth date in Dec it might have been registered in Jan-Mar quarter 1915!

Eleven possible births on FreeBMD if she was born Elizabeth Miller.

OOOhh - Well done Choccy !!!

There would seem to have been a divorce then??

Anyone know where to look?

Dea x

possibly


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
Name: Elizabeth Avison
Spouse Surname: Godding
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1977
Registration district: Pontypool
Registration county (inferred): Monmouthshire
Volume Number: 28
Page Number: 0687



England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
Name: Elizabeth Godding
Birth Date: 19 Dec 1914
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1991
Age at death (estimated): 76
Registration district: Pontypool
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 28
Page: 896

Thanks Von,

I am obviously reading it differently - this is very confusing.

On page 1 it was stated that Elizabeth died in the 1980's in Wales,.

When asked if she died under the name of Avison, the reply was - no, she remarried but I don't know the name???

Elizabeth's mother also remarried, hence her birth name not being Miller !!

I think I will give up now until some more info comes to light. It is obviously just too much for my little brain (tee hee!!).

Dea x

Did your mother have siblings .I see a possible 4 children Avison / Miller if so have you asked them if they know any details

?? Elliot marriages
Elliot Avison / Elizabeth Miller Jul-Aug-Sep 1933 Glossop Derbyshire
Elliot Avison / Martha Ingham Oct-Nov-Dec 1959 Glossop Derbyshire
Elliot Avison / May Crabtree Jul-Aug-Sep 1974 Tameside Tyne and Wear