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10 Sep 2009 23:11 |
Unfortunately I can't find him in 1891. I've tried William +/- 5 years1848 born Calne but nothing likely turns up.
By the way, I keep adding to individual posts as I find info. So good idea to check back on them. I'm trying to find the Vaughan connection now to see if William went to them in London, but no luck.
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10 Sep 2009 23:01 |
Thank you Ozibird, I do know what you mean about the age thing!!! The info is marvellous...what a great help...and I think I'm getting there too...well at least trying to keep up with you. Russell
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10 Sep 2009 22:35 |
I'm sure this is the same William. Lion Lane is the next street after Wood Street on the census. This entry is 2 pages on from Mary Ann Brewer.
1871 England Census Name: William Goodship Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Rhoda Gender: Male Where born: Calne, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Calne Town: Calne County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: Lion Lane
Occupation: Ag lab
Registration district: Calne Sub-registration district: Calne ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 120 Household Members: Name Age William Goodship 25 Rhoda Goodship 25
Marriages Dec 1865 Cue John Calne 5a 143 >>>>>Goodship William Calne 5a 143 >>>>>Hand Rhoda Calne 5a 143 WHALE Mary Ann Calne 5a 143
??????????? I don't think he was ever a butcher? In 1901 in Bury St Edmunds he's a gardener. 1881 England Census Name: William Goodship Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Son in Law Gender: Male Where born: Calne, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Calne County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: Mill Street Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: General Laborer Registration district: Calne Sub-registration district: Calne ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Hand 59 Rodha Goodship 34 John Hand 21 William Goodship 34 Briycies Vaughan 5
Deaths Mar 1885 GOODSHIP Rhoda 40 Calne 5a 61
Don't understand this relationship yet. Births Sep 1875 Vaughan Bryces Jane St Geo H Sq
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10 Sep 2009 22:26 |
1841 England Census Name: Geo Goodshep [George Goodship on the image] Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Calne Parish Hundred: Calne County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: Wood Street
Occupation: Hurdle M[aker]
View image Registration district: Calne Sub-registration district: Calne Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Andrew Goodshep 55 - Beer seller Mary Goodshep 45 Geo Goodshep 15 Eliza Fowler 15 - F.S. Robert Bath 10
All born in county
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10 Sep 2009 21:58 |
????????
Deaths Dec 1861 Goodship George Calne 5a 36
Marriages Mar 1863 BAILY George Calne 5a 102 >>>>>>BREWER John Calne 5a 102 >>>>>>GOODSHIP Mary Ann Calne 5a 102 GREGORY Fanny Calne 5a 102
1871 England Census Name: Fanny Good?? Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: Calne, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Calne Town: Calne County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: White Horse Inn, Wood Street [looks like he took over from George]
Registration district: Calne Sub-registration district: Calne ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 113 Household Members: Name Age John Bresser 47 Mary Ann Bresser 49 Fanny Good?? 14 - stepdaughter Fred Good?? 12 - stepson John Brekke 7 - son Mark Ponton 23 - lodger
It's not surprising that the transcriber had problems. There's lots of scribbling over. If you know the names are Brewer & Goodship you can work them out.
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10 Sep 2009 21:47 |
It looks like your man gets younger as he grows older, if you know what I mean.
??????????? 1861 England Census Name: George Goodship Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Calne, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Calne Ecclesiastical parish: Calne Town: Calne County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: Wood Street
Occupation: Public House and Woodman
Registration district: Calne Sub-registration district: Calne ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 110 Household Members: Name Age George Goodship 38 Mary Goodship 39 Andrew Goodship 17 William Goodship 15 George Goodship 10 Robt Goodship 8 Fanny Goodship 4 Fred Goodship 2
1851 England Census Name: George Goodship Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Calne, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Calne Town: Calne County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: Back Row
Occupation: Ag lab
Registration district: Calne Sub-registration district: Calne ED, institution, or vessel: 2c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 92 Household Members: Name Age George Goodship 28 Mary Ann Goodship 29 Andrew Goodship 7 William Goodship 5 George Goodship 8 Mo
All born Calne.
Marriages Sep 1842 FROUD James Calne 8 365 >>>>>GOODSHIP George Calne 8 365 HAINS Sarah Calne 8 365 JAMES John Calne 8 365 LITTLE Jane Caene 8 365 MORRILL James Calne 8 365 >>>>>NASH Mary Ann Calne 8 365 ORIEL Ann Calne 8 365
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10 Sep 2009 11:39 |
Goodship Line - new information!
This morning I received a surprise in the post in the form of a copy birth certificate which I ordered a month ago. It was the marriage certificate of my G Grandfather William Goodship and G Grandmother Clara Jane Millie. This was ordered and based on the birth certificate of my Grandfather William Robert Goodship bn Camberwell 1896. The lines being followed yesterday were fascinating and I've been going through them to establish confirmation, however, this new information will alter that line and perhaps help a little in determining the direction.
The Marriage Certificate info is as follows.... Column 205 28 August 1892 Marriage solemnized at The Parish Church in the Parish of Bethnal Green in London. William Goodship 43 Widower Butcher Resident at 261 Globe Road. Father - George Goodship (Deceased) Publican. & Clara Jane Millie 36 Spinster Resident 134 Old Ford Road. Father - William Millie (Deceased) Tailor. At first I wondered if, because he was a widower the line would still hold, but realise that his father's name is George and not Andrew.
Apologies to you for all the work on the previous line but it was very interesting anyway because I learned a lot. I would welcome any suggestions and ideas, please!
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Russell
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9 Sep 2009 16:09 |
seems that way doesnlt it
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9 Sep 2009 14:30 |
Goodship Line & variants Thank you Ann of Green Gables I never knew that - just goes to prove yet again that I'm not too old to learn! So in the earlier days the variant could have been used until it became the established name?
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9 Sep 2009 14:16 |
This intriguing and unusual name is of early medieval English origin, and is one of that large group of interesting modern surnames which were gradually developed from the habitual use of nicknames. In this instance, the nickname was one given to a trader who made frequent use of the vendor's cry "good cheap". The phrase derives from the Middle English "gode", good, from the Old English pre 7th Century "god", with "ch(e)ap", bargain, barter, from Old English "ceap". The medieval phrase "good cheap" was used when the market was good for the purchaser, that is when prices were low, and the nickname was for one who gave a good bargain and advertised his wares by calling out this phrase. The surname development includes William Gudchep (1236, London), and Hamo Godchape (1315, ibid.). The modern surname can be found as Goodchap, Goodcheap and Goodship. One William Goodship was christened at Wandsworth in South London on the January 9th 1681. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Walter Godchep, which was dated 1166, The Norfolk Pipe Rolls, during the reign of King Henry 11, "The Builder of Churches", 1154 - 1189. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.
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9 Sep 2009 14:13 |
Thanks all, I'm still here chewing over all the information you are producing. I'm not quite able to digest it all at once but it is really fascinating - and quite exciting too! Thank you awdrey I will look on the Wiltshire BMD index. I'm very interested Ann of Green Gables in the possiblility of the name change to Goodsheap - do you think that happened with this one? I wonder what that means. I had thought that Goodship was some sort of derivation for Good chap or God's Chap...but Goodsheap!
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9 Sep 2009 14:12 |
Distal trisomy 2p and arachnodactyly -- STALKER et al. 37 (1... ... Compton Road, Hilmarton, Calne, Wilts SN11 8SG, UK, drdeb{at}pocottage. prestel.co.uk ... trisomy (2p21-pter) in two siblings of a family with a 2p-: 15q+ translocation. ... Ryan AK, Goodship JA, Wilson DI, Philip N, Levy A, Seidel H, ...
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9 Sep 2009 14:11 |
http://archive.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/2005/6/23/ Wiltshire Family History Society, Friendly Society Records Full details can be obtained by writing to Wiltshire Family History ..... GOODSHIP,Andrew, Calstone, 1858, 11945. GOODSHIP,George, Calstone, 1864, 16112 ... GOUGH,Charles, Calne, 1865, 16232. GOUGH,Charles, Chippenham, 1864, 15733 ...
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9 Sep 2009 14:09 |
Joseph Goodship Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 07 MAR 1774 Calne, Calne, Wiltshire, England Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Daniel Goodship Family Mother: Rachel Brous
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
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9 Sep 2009 14:08 |
Betty Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 25 DEC 1770 Calne, Wiltshire, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Thomas Goodship Family Mother: Mary Humphris
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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9 Sep 2009 14:07 |
ELIZABETH GOODSHIP Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 24 MAR 1765 Chippenham, Wiltshire, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Mother: MARY GOODSHIP Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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9 Sep 2009 14:07 |
ELLIZABETH GOODSHIP Pedigree Female Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: DANNIEL REEVE Family Marriage: 24 OCT 1734 Chippenham, Wiltshire, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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9 Sep 2009 14:06 |
ELISABETH GOODSHIP Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: ABRAHAM GOODSHIP Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Event(s): Adult Christening: 27 MAY 1727 Chippenham, Wiltshire, England Age at Adult Christening: 25
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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9 Sep 2009 14:06 |
ELIZABETH GOODSHIP Pedigree Female Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: ROBT. WHITTLE Family Marriage: 24 APR 1704 Chippenham, Wiltshire, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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9 Sep 2009 14:05 |
1881
George GOODSHIP Head M Male 35 Theobalds Green, Wiltshire, England Ag Lab Elizabeth GOODSHIP Wife M Female 34 Calne, Wiltshire, England Farm Serv Sarah GOODSHIP Daur Female 10 Green Lane, Wiltshire, England Henry J. GOODSHIP Son Male 8 Theobalds Green, Wiltshire, England George GOODSHIP Son Male 5 Theobalds Green, Wiltshire, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Moggs Lane Census Place Blackland, Wiltshire, England Family History Library Film 1341490 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2036 / 59 Page Number 4
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