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I would order the certificate for Walter ............. you don't have to say another name on there


When it comes you will see which woman is shown.


Then, if there is only one bride's name on the certificate, you could order the certificate for the other woman and see what that says.

You have all the information you need to buy the certificate.

Each one will cost you £7



sylvia

Had a look but don't see a definate death for Agnes before Walter and Ivy appear together in Australia. There is this one but it is the wrong area.

Deaths Dec 1929 (89%)
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Fitt Agnes M 40 Norwich 4b 174


I also looked for a re -marriage for her (in case they divorced before Walter went to Australia)

This one , again the wrong area.

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1936 (>99%)
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Fitt Agnes M Gorham Surrey N.E. 2a 206


I search using both Agnes and Kathleen as a christian name as I think the marriage entries for Agnes Locke and Kathleen A (Agnes?) M Locke are for the same person. I think that she was just known by her middle name.

It could be that Walter and Ivy never married if he was still married to Agnes. My Great Uncle emigrated to Australia in the 1920s and last year I bought his death certificate. The death was registered by his "widow" to whom he had supposedly been married to for 16 years having married in Glasgow. In fact his real widow was still living in Glasgow - he had deserted her and his children when he left for Australia and they had never divorced. The real widow remarried as soon as she was notified of his death!

Carolyn The marriage I posted with the two names on is right and they have just got the name wrong on the first entry and then put down Agnes's full name. Agnes and Kathleen are the same person!!!!

As to the marriage found for Agnes Fitt in Surrey this could be right as it was Surrey that they lived.

Thanks everyone, Sylvia(in Canada),rootgatherer, Mel, with your continuing help I am starting to pull this thing together.

First, I will apply for Walter's Marriage cert. Then I think I need to search the Passenger lists for 'Baradine' to see if his wife came with him to Australia. Trying to solve one mystery at a time. I haven't yet searched to see if he and Agnes/Kathleen had any children, (in England) so that's another search.

Do you think I'm going about it the right way, I'm open to any suggestions/guidelines from the experts?

Big thanks, again, Regards, Carolyn

With reply to yours Rootgatherer, the 1936 Electoral roll in Australia shows Ivy Pearl Fitt with Walter.

Your info. shows a marriage in 1936 for Agnes M. to Gorham in Surrey N.E. 2a 206.

Do you think it is possible Walter and Agnes divorced, and then both remarried? Are there records for divorces that I could look up The fact that they both had new partners in 1936 makes me think that this could be possible. Even though there doesn't seem to be any record of a marriage between Walter and Ivy in Australia.

Your thoughts appreciated. Regards, Carolyn

Sorry, I missed one, thanks also to ChristineinPortugal.

You guys are all over the place world).

Thanks for your trouble Christine, I appreciate any information I can get.

Regards, Carolyn

Good morning Carolyn

Not sure what date divorces are available up to on The National Archives website using their online catalogue to search. I don't see anything for Walter and Agnes.

I have search on Freebmd and don't see any issue from Agnes's marriage to Walter.

A search for a remarriage between a Fitt and an Ivy after 1922 only produced this result but I don't think it is your Walter. The Ivy M - M could be for Margaret and Margarets are sometimes known as Pearl.

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1927 (99%)
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Baldry Ivy M Fitt Norwich 4b 250
FITT William G Baldry Norwich 4b 250


I don't see any children on Freebmd from this marriage.

But if Walter left this country in 1923 then he would not have come back to marry in 1927 anyway.

I looked for children with the mothers maiden name but found nothing.............................................

Thanks once again Rootgatherer and Mel.

When I receive the marriage cert. and have hopefully checked the passenger lists for the 'Baradine', I will know; about Walters wife and whether or not she travelled with him.

We know that he and Ivy stayed together until death and had a very large family (about 15 children), but there is no record of a marriage.

I will keep checking this board during the next week, after that I will be on holiday for a week. When I return I will take up the search again.

Regards, Carolyn

Sorry Mel - I must have had difficulty getting the brain into gear this morning. You're quite right he couldn't have married again in England - sorry.