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The girls were born in 1932 and 1935


so the marriage, if it happened, took place after 1935.


It is possible that she married someone who was killed in WW2, and then married Mr Hawtin after that


Or ..................... they may not have married at all, but lived common-law.



Much of the information on a death certificate is only as good as the informant knows. This includes the name, age and marital status of the deceased!


So if the informant didn't know all the details, but knew she had been known as Mrs Hawtin (just as in a common-law marriage these days), then that is the name that would go on the death certificate.



sylvia

Sylvia,

What makes me think she wasn't married was because Pamela was registered as a Nicholson and then reregistered the following year as Hawtin.

If she were married before, I would expect to see the birth under her husband's surname.


Rose

I wonder if she married someone else first, then married Mr Hawtin???



sylvia

Still don't see a marriage for them.

Rose

This must be his birth:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about William George Hawtin
Name: William George Hawtin
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Oxford
County: Berkshire, Oxfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 1071 (click to see others on page)

Rose

i got to go work now thanks for help i will check if u reply later thanks for help sorry if it been confusing

had another look its William Geogre Hawtin born 1906 and died 2000

yeah that right Pamela born in Sheffield sorry should have meation it

Not seeing anything for him. When was he born?

Rose

Are you sure she was born Croydon?

Patricia looks to be born there but Pamela was born Sheffield.

Here's one with a Sheffield link:

Births Dec 1911
NICHOLSON Dorothy Evans Ecclesall B. 9c 912

Rose

ah its George William Hawtin

That is possible? from outsdie marriage

Both children look to be born outside of a marriage.

Rose

Not seeing a marriage for them.

Rose

yeah could be November not october

Her birth is different here:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Dorothy Hawtin
Name: Dorothy Hawtin
Birth Date: 24 Oct 1911
Death Registration Month/Year: Jun 1991
Age at death (estimated): 79
Registration district: York
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume: 2
Page: 2799

Rose

Im trying to find all about Dorothy Nicholson born 24th november 1911 and died 1991 june in York birth of place Croyson and married to William Hawtin that is it all I know, any more about her parent? i been told possible she is adpoted? anyone can help? this will be great
thanks

just to add this may helps they got two daughter Pamela Hawtin and Patricia Hawtin and she died ages of 21