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Hi Jan
sorry i cant find anything on the Williams family also check out Edward Ernest Cutler and nothing turned up,if he married in SA then it was not registered...
Steve

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Hi Steven
Many thanks for your time and effort in looking for him. Perhaps one day I find something!!!!!
Regards
Rhonda

Hi Rhonda
I had a good look and could not find him in SA..sorry
Steve

Hi Steven,
Could you search your records for me. I have a John Brady who came from Dublin to Australia. All I can tell you is that he married in Victoria in 1856 in Warambool. I have not been able to find when or where he arrived in Australia or a death record for the man. Very elusive! According to his marriage in 1856 he was about 24 so I estimate he was born about 1832. I know he was a Gold miner and at the goldfields near Ballarat about 1856/1857 as well. Would you be able to search the SA records? I thought he may have arrived thru SA. Many thanks for your time and help and I'll keep my fingers crossed!
Regards
Rhonda

Hi Steve,
Thanks again - the information has been very interesting and useful indeed. I will add it to what I have already and see if there are any more gaps you may be able to fill for me. I have a shipping record of a Mr and Mrs Hoenger and 3 children sailing from Adelaide to Sydney in Dec, 1892, so they must have decided to patch things up and make a new life in NSW. Lots of records of Rudolphe senior in the 1900's until his death in 1922, but no more of Anna/Hannah Maria/Clara Schneider. Or baby Frederich. Otto turns up as a primary school student in Hindmarsh Valley (photo in SA State Library records) but i have no record of the family having been in that part of SA. Anyway, you've sertainly made things a lot clearer for me.
Regards,
Anne

Hi Anne
Yes he was a bit of a lad,dont worry,i have a few Rudolphes in my tree also :)
I couldnt find Anna death anywhere,i only have SA records,so if she died in NSW i wouldnt have her death.
But i found the following deaths in SA:
Carl Walter Hoenger 6-2-1889,7 days,died at Frewville
Frederick Hoenger ,3-9-1885,1 year,died Payneham Road..

Birth places of Rudolph and Anna's children:
Anna Clara,Jamestown
Carl Walter,Frewville
Frederick Oscar,Hackney
Friderich Ernst,Adelaide
Louis Nellie,Hackney(mother is named as Hannah Angus Schnieder)
Lucy Freda,Hackney
Otto,Terowie
Rudolphe,Greenock

Let me know if you nee any more info
Regards Steve

Hello Steve,
Thank you so much for that. Rudolphe was a bit of a lad, wasn't he?
I seem to have picked up most of the birth and death dates for the family but i would like to know the places where they were born and died to give me an idea of the movements of the family. There were several children who died in infancy and there seems to have been 2 Fredricks. I would especially like to know when and where Anna Maria Schneider (Rudolphe's wife) died. The Hoengers that survived into adulthood moved to other states (mostly NSW). I can give more information if required.
Again, many thanks,

Anne

Hi Anne
Here is the 2 articles in the 1879 Police Gazette relating to Rudolph Hoenger:

"August Peterson and Rudolph Hoenger, by Constable Bennett, for feloniously assaulting John Schloikier, at Caltowie ; committed." .

also
"Hoenger, Rudolph, assault ; fined £5.".

1888 P/G .
"STEALING IN DWELLINGS . FROM THE PERSON, &C.
On the night of the 6th instant, from Hannah Hoenger,
at the National Hotel, Adelaide, a long black fur boa, with
tassels at ends, and a black Italian cloth umbrella, with hoop
handle and silver band.-(C.1272.)".

1890 P/G.
"William O'Donohoe, Henry Harold Thompson, William Wardrup,
and Otto Hoenger, by Det. Sgt. Burchell and M.C. Provis, for larceny
from Alexander Ferguson, at Glen Osmond ; 0' Donohoe reforma
until 16, Wardrup and Thompson whipped, Hoenger charge withdrawn.".

1891 P/G:
"Rudolph Hoenger, a stonecutter, age about 45 years,
height about 5ft. 5in., slight build, dark complexion, dark-
brown hair, and full beard (sometimes shaves), dark eyes,
medium nose, a German, but speaks good English, for
disobeying an order of the Adelaide Bench to pay the sum
of 2s. 6d. per week to the secretary of the State Children's
Council for the maintenance of his son on the 9th instant;
the arrears then amounted to £2 19s. 6d.-(C.1826.)".

1894 P/G:
"Vide Police Gazette, 1891, page 208.-Re Rudolph
Hoenger, for disobeying an order of the Adelaide Bench for
the maintenance of his son-The warrant has been with-
drawn.--(C.1826.)".

Couldnt find any more in the Police Gazettes after that,if you know of a certain year,let me know and i will check it out,it looks like Rudolph was in SA at least until 1894.

Do you want me to check the BDM indexes ?,or do you already have all the relevant dates and info for the Hoenger family ??

Regards
Steve

Hi Sonny
I am unable to help you,as my records only go to 1972 and i cant see him there.

It is very generous of you to do this! I am researching records for the Hoenger family. Being such an unusual surname anything you come up with should be relevant - and there shouldn't be an overwhelming amount. Rudolphe Hoenger and his partner arrived in Adelaide in 1876 and married that year. They had about 8 children but they all seemed to have left for NSW around the 1900's. I know there is a record of a Rudolph Hoenger in the Police Gazette which I would be very interested in getting details of. Thanks again - is there any way I can help you in return?
Regards,
Anne

HI
I am looking for a Keith Shannon , More specifically his brother (name unknown). This brother was a freind of my mothers in 1969 in adelaide. All i know is that keith was freinds with my uncle (Tony Shammel) and that tony cannot remember keiths brothers first name. Tony was around 20 years of age in 1969 and i would imagine keith would have been near that age as well. Im sure if i can find keith , i would be able to find my mothers freind.
Best Regards
Sonnie Groombridge

Hi Steve,
Thank you for trying anyway.
Regards Heather

Hi Heather
I have looked everywhere,but cant find them ..sorry
Regards
Steve

Hi Steven,
Would you please check the S.A.shipping for Esther Gething between 1847 and 1853. She may have travelled with her husband Thomas or even under her maiden name of Wood. She was born in 1825 at Rugely Staffordshire.
Thanks Heather

Hi Steven


WOW!

Thank you for that!

They are not direct ancestors, rather siblings of my gt gt gt grandfather ......... but I would love to have the information.

I have pm'd you with my home email address


I have a lot of info on them after they arrived in California .... where they apparently became pillars of the San Bernadino Valley pioneers! So I don't need that thank you very much.



Could the Thomas Cadd that you found be this one? He and his sister Hannah emigrated to Australia, with spouses and children some time in the 1840's or 1850s. The information I have is:-

Thomas Cadd born 26 Nov 1815 in Preston Bisset, died 21 Mar 1887
in Clyde, Victoria, Australia. He married Ann Neal on 28 Dec 1835 in Preston Bisset. She was born 6 Dec 1815 in Preston Bisset, and died 19 Aug 1901 in South Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.

Hannah Cadd born 17 Jan 1819 in Preston Bisset. She married Frederick
Clifton on 10 Feb 1837 in Preston Bisset. He was born in 1817 in Preston
Bisset, and died in 1889 (age 72) in Sydney, Australia.



thank you once again


sylvia

Hi Sylvia
Found this
"John & Ann Bedford Cadd, with their children, emigrated to South Australia aboard the sailing ship "Mariner".
They left Liverpool in the Spring of 1847 & arrived in Port Adelaide, South. Australia in 25-9-1847. The vessel, lacking the wind to sail it, at times, during the voyage caused passengers & crew to panic in dread of running short of provisions before they made it to Australia.
On the 27th June 1857, John & Ann took the children Emma, Joseph (with their spouses) and Ann, the youngest & departed Sydney, New South Wales aboard the ship "Lucas". they arrived in San Pedro Harbour, Los Angeles, on the 12 October 1857."

Also the shipping records have the family as the name Caddie and says they arrived in South Australia with 5 children,so that would be John,Emma,Ann and i have found evidence of a Elizabeth Cadd and a Thomas Cadd.
I also have a photo of their headstone (John and Ann) and some photos of their children (Elizabeth Ann "Betsy" Cadd,Thomas William Cadd,Emma Elizabeth Cadd,Ann Elizabeth "Lizzie" Cadd) ,not sure how to give to you.if you want it send me a message with your email address and i can send them to you.
Do you need any info of when the family was in the USA or any other info,the tell me exactly what info you need as i have found lots on the family??.
Cheers
Steve

Hi Steven

a bit of a fishing expedition!!

Are there any records for Cadd in SA?

I have a record of a John Joseph Cadd (b. 25 Dec 1836 Buckinghamshire) marrying Sophia Elizabeth Lambrick-Palmer 25 Feb 1856, Adelaide. Sophia was born Apr 1836, Isle of Guernsey, Channel Islands.

John Joseph died in San Bernardino California in 1908, and Sophia d in 1901, San Bernardino

His father was John C Cadd b 1805 Buckinghamshire, died San Bernardino California in 1871. He was married to Anne Bedford, also born in Buckinghamshire (1800), and died in San Bernardino in 1885.

If John Joseph was in SA and then moved to California ............ I'm assuming that his parents also went to SA, but have no evidence.

In fact, one family story is that they went on a Mormon ship from SA to California in order to proselytize on the Californian goldfields!

Can you find any evidence for when these Cadds entered SA, how long they were there, and when they might have left?

I don't have any record of any children that might have been born in SA



Thank you very much



sylvia

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