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14 Sep 2009 15:22 |
Does seem to tie in with the info provided on previous page:
Births Jun 1849 SIMMONS Daniel Henley 16 83
Deaths Dec 1924 Simmonds Daniel 75 Maidenhead 2c 422
marriage of Daniels parents?
Marriages Dec 1843 Jervis Sarah Henley 16 177 Simmonds Robert Henley 16 177
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14 Sep 2009 15:11 |
Hopefully this is Daniels birth
Born 28 March 1849 Nettlebed to Robert a labourer and Sally Christened 29 April 1849 Nettlebed
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14 Sep 2009 15:00 |
Hi Brenda
He is indeed a lucky man, I don't usually come on this board, did today and this one caught my eye, Terrance must have given up on finding a living rellie who could possibly help.
I've got the parish records for Nettlebed too so just about to have a look to see if I can find Daniels birth for him, can we get lucky twice in one day. Also live in Marlow myself so might even be able to get photos for him. Off to have another delve
Barb
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14 Sep 2009 14:40 |
Hi Beejay,
I am sure that Terence will be very pleased with this new information...........he is a lucky man!
I am just looking for anyone else in the family that he is or maybe looking for.
Brenda
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14 Sep 2009 14:29 |
For all those still helping Terence, I have the marriage cert for Elizabeth Harriet Simmonds, her second marriage, to my great uncle Francis Field plus the births of their 2 daughters Frances Esme and Phyllis June Field. Have pm'd Terrance offering copy. Also have the death of Elizabeth in 1971
Barb
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14 Sep 2009 12:44 |
to update the info on Alfred William simmonds family to 1911 ( with Sidney on it)
1911 Census Household Transcript Back to normal view Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born: SIMMONDS, ALFRED HEAD MARRIED M 35 STEAM LAUNCH ENGINE DRIVER BERKS RUSCOMBE SIMMONDS, JESSIE WIFE MARRIED 12 F 36 BUCKS MARLOW SIMMONDS, KATE DAUGHTER F 12 SCHOOL BUCKS MARLOW SIMMONDS, SIDNEY SON M 6 MONTHS BERKS BISHAMS SIMMONDS ALFRED (RG14PN6638 RG78PN330 RD123 SD1 ED1 SN21) Address BISHAM MARLOW County Berkshire District Maidenhead Subdistrict Maidenhead Enumeration District 1 Parish Bisham
Brenda
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On Ancestry someone has a personal member tree re Simmonds families:-
Simmonds Family History Site Personal Member Tree
Daniel Simmonds Born: 1849 in Nettlebed, Oxfordshire, England You will also find attached to this person 6 attached records, 7 sources 648 people in this member tree
also same pm tree
Alfred William Simmonds Born: 1875 in Rushcombe, Berkshire, England You will also find attached to this person * 4 attached records * 4 sources * 648 people in this member tree
Connect with the owner of this tree Believe this person is also o this site ie Genes
also another personal member tree Pullman/Newbitt-Norris/Thayers
Daniel Simmonds Born: 1848 in Nettlebed, Oxfordshire, England * 6 attached records * 6 sources * 929 people in this member tree Connect with the owner of this tree
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14 Sep 2009 12:22 |
Have pm'd Terrance re Elizabeth Harriet Simmonds second marriage
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Moody Blue
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14 Sep 2009 12:09 |
Believe that this is your missing "Annie" ( again using her 2nd name)
Births Dec 1884 Simmonds Sarah Ann Cookham 2c 435
Marriages Mar 1905 Searle Walter Edward Lewisham 1d 1219 Simmonds Sarah Annie Lewisham 1d 1219
1911 Census Household Transcript
Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born: SEARLE, WALTER HEAD MARRIED M 32 GROCER ESSEX NEWPORT SEARLE, ANNIE WIFE MARRIED 6 F 26 BISHAM BERKS SEARLE, WILLIAM SON M 5 SHOREDITCH LONDON SEARLE ANNIE (RG14PN9614 RG78PN512 RD188 SD8 ED9 SN37) Address 66 HOLLOWAY ROAD LEYTONSTONE N E County Essex District West Ham Subdistrict South Leyton Enumeration District 9 Parish Low Leyton
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Moody Blue
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14 Sep 2009 11:10 |
Hi Terence,
I do NOT believe that it was D & M's son Henry that married Agnes Sarah Pithers by reason of info below:-
1911 Census Household Transcript
Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born: SIMMONS, HENRY HEAD MARRIED M 33 WOODMAN BURNHAM BUCKS SIMMONS, AGNES SARAH WIFE MARRIED 8 F 30 LAUNDRY WORK BURNHAM BUCKS SIMMONS, FLORENCE MAY ELIZABETH DAUGHTER SINGLE F 11 BURNHAM BUCKS SIMMONS, HENRY WILLIAM SON SINGLE M 8 BURNHAM BUCKS SIMMONS, FRANCIS THOMAS SON SINGLE M 5 BURNHAM BUCKS SIMMONS, FREDERICK CHARLES SON SINGLE M 2 BURNHAM BUCKS
SIMMONS AGNES SARAH (RG14PN6657 RG78PN330 RD123 SD1 ED19 SN93) Address 67 WALDECK TERRACE MAIDENHEAD County Berkshire District Maidenhead Subdistrict Maidenhead Enumeration District 19 Parish Maidenhead
looks like it was probably this Henry that she married re details supplied on the 1911 census above:-
Births Dec 1878 Simmonds Henry Eton 3a 522
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Terence
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14 Sep 2009 02:35 |
Hi Brenda, After many more hours searching, I'm reasonably confidant that, from your information on Alfred William Simmonds bOND 1875 Wokingham 2c 373, is not the same as William James Simmonds (Son of Daniel/Martha) bJFM 1875 Ruscombe/Wokingham 2c 384. Furthermore, through your help, I have found that we have a close connection with Alfred William (We knew him as "Uncle Billie"), "Aunt Jess" matches his wife Jessie and, although not knowing about "Kate" 1899, we have very fond memories of "Uncle Sid" Sidney 1910, never married, lost a leg and died 1956 (aged only 46). My gran Catherine Margaret Meads (Simmonds, D/Martha) went to live next door to them in Marlow after her husband Harry died in 1948. Gran lived upstairs, while "Uncle Sid" had groundfloor rooms as a Bespoke Tailor to the gentry. Cannot find any information for Alfred William in the 1881 and 1891 census before marriage, so now ordered the marriage certificate to find his father to really sort things out. I do have the 1881 census information for Jessie's family. I now have (some more, some less) information regarding 16 Simmonds families, plus what I have to sort from todays searching. So if I can help someone else! Daniel/Martha's John Charles and Annie details still seems to elude me at the moment. Oh, am I correct that D and M's Henry 1873 married Agnes Sarah Pithers1882. Reg: Eton 3a 1431? Again from information from you, I would have not got this far without your tremedous help Brenda, thanks a million! Terence.
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4 Sep 2009 10:50 |
Thanks yet again Brenda, every item counts to putting the puzzle together. I must ease off with the searching for a few days as other interests and pursuits are getting neglected! Again many thanks Brenda. Terence.
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Moody Blue
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3 Sep 2009 21:13 |
hi Terence,
Yes, it is the same family in 1891 and 1901.
Here is the birth of Rosa Jane Simmonds ( re 1891 census)
Births Mar 1889 Simmonds Rosa Jane Cookham 2c 389
In the 1901 census she appears as just "Jane". So she could be known by her second as was Annie "Blanche" Simmonds?
marriage of Frederick George Simmonds? Marriages Mar 1880 Marks Ellen Cookham 2c 627 Simmonds Frederick George Cookham 2c 627
.Possible death for Ellen (mother)
Deaths Dec 1900 Simmonds Ellen 43 Maidenhead 2c 241
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3 Sep 2009 07:04 |
Thank you very much again Brenda, these 'Annie's' (and all the Simmonds in fact) seem (to me) to be a little confusing! I am actually looking for the Annie1886 of Daneil1848/Martha1850. All of their children: John1880, Elizabeth1882, Annie1886, Ellen1887, Catherine1890 and Victor1895 appear to be born in Bisham.. Except Henry1873, Hurley and William1875, Ruscombe. I have Frederick G1860/Ellen1860 Simmonds with Arthur W1884, Annie B1886 and Rosa I1889 in the 1891 census living at 8 Long Acre Farm, Cookham. Would this be the same family (in your latest info) in 1901?
I'm not sure about Alfred William, he could have dropped his first name early on. As with some others!! I appreciate your help Brenda, I should not leave it all to you, I will continue with my efforts. Terence.
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2 Sep 2009 19:23 |
Births Dec 1875 Simmonds Alfred William Wokingham 2c 373
Ruscombe is in Wokingham district.
Marriages Mar 1898 Fleming Jessie Elizabeth Maidenhead 2c 571 Simmonds Alfred William Maidenhead 2c 571
1901 England Census about Alfred W Simmonds Name: Alfred W Simmonds Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jessie E Gender: Male Where born: Ruscombe, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Bisham Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Bisham County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address: Village, Bisham
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Maidenhead Sub-registration district: Cookham ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Alfred W Simmonds 25 Engineer on Electric Launch? (Barge) Jessie E Simmonds 26 born Marlow Bucks Kate E Simmonds 2 daughter born Bisham Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1160; Folio: 35; Page: 3.
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2 Sep 2009 19:04 |
Marriages Sep 1908 PITHERS Albert Charles Eton 3a 1750 SIMMONDS Annie Blanche E Eton 3a 1750
1911 Census Household Transcript
Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born: PITHERS, ALBERT CHARLES HEAD MARRIED M 23 LABOURER GENERAL BURNHAM BUCKS PITHERS, ANNIE BLANCHE E WIFE 2 F 25 LAUNDRESS MAIDENHEAD BERKS
PITHERS ANNIE BLANCHE E (RG14PN6657 RG78PN330 RD123 SD1 ED19 SN92) Address 67 WALDECK TERRACE MAIDENHEAD County Berkshire District Maidenhead Subdistrict Maidenhead Enumeration District 19 Parish Maidenhead
1901 England Census about Albert C Pitkin Name: Albert C Pitkin [Albert C Pithers] Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Harriet A Gender: Male Where born: Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: Burnham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Burnham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street Address: Sunnyside ?
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Eton Sub-registration district: Burnham ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 126 Household Members: Name Age Harriet A Pitkin 53 Widow, born Westtide, Hampshire, England Agnes S Pitkin 19 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Herbert J Pitkin 15 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Albert C Pitkin 13 Farm Lab born Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Florence M E Pitkin 5 grandchild born Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1344; Folio: 33; Page: 18.
All should read Pithers
1901 England Census about Blanch Simmonds Name: Blanch Simmonds Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Frederick Gender: Female Where born: Maidenhead, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Maidenhead Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew and St Mary Town: Maidenhead County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address: Tyrrells Buildings 36
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Maidenhead Sub-registration district: Cookham ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 154 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Simmonds 43 Widower / Coal Carman labourer Blanch Simmonds 15 Jane Simmonds 13 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1161; Folio: 18; Page: 27.
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Terence
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2 Sep 2009 07:14 |
Thanks to 'Brenda' (for pointing out more info) also many more to 'Moody Blue'. I was just going to add to many more hours of researching the Simmonds family, but this latest info has been an immense help.
Very glad to have info on Frances and Phyllis (we knew her as June) . I now have to find their children. We know that Frances married David Whitbourne and Son Freddie worked in the dairy in Bisham Village.
Annie Simmonds (Dec 1885?) info still remains elusive to me. She is 6yrs in the 1891 census, but my searching has not yet found her 'in service,' as is the the case generally. Have not found her possible early death either!
In this column 'Jonesey' mentions a Harry Simmonds in the Royal Berks Regt, but he was born in 1873!
To end for now, I have received the certificate for Elizabeth's first marriage confirming George Walter Silvey, and, as I have 7 Simmonds families from the different census', I have yet to trace one of the 'witnesses' named Alfred William Simmonds? I have yet to put together another Simmonds family in Cookham/Bisham! The one with Annie Blanche Simmonds! (Parents Fred G/Ellen Simmonds). Terence.
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31 Aug 2009 04:00 |
Matha's birth & death...........
Births Sep 1850 Norris Martha Cookham 6 169
Deaths Mar 1935 Simmonds Martha 84 Maidenhead 2c 567
and Daniel......
Births Jun 1849 SIMMONS Daniel Henley 16 83
Deaths Dec 1924 Simmonds Daniel 75 Maidenhead 2c 422
marriage of Daniels parents?
Marriages Dec 1843 Jervis Sarah Henley 16 177 Simmonds Robert Henley 16 177
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31 Aug 2009 03:49 |
Would this be anyone who is connected to your Daniel Simmonds ?
Casualty Details Name: SIMMONDS, HARRY Initials: H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Royal Berkshire Regiment Unit Text: 1st/4th Bn. Age: 22 Date of Death: 16/08/1917 Service No: 201513 Additional information: Son of Daniel Simmonds, of Shellingford Cross Rds., Faringdon, Berks. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: I. B. 11. Cemetery: DUHALLOW A.D.S. CEMETERY
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31 Aug 2009 03:31 |
Further information re Elizabeth Harriet...........
1st husbands death.......
Casualty Details Name: SILVEY, GEORGE WALTER Initials: G W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Corporal Regiment/Service: Royal Berkshire Regiment Unit Text: Depot Age: 33 Date of Death: 19/05/1917 Service No: 26188 Additional information: Husband of Elizabeth Harriet Field (formerly Silvey), of 6, York Rd., Marlow. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: C. M. 31. Cemetery: MARLOW CEMETERY
2nd marriage Marriages Sep 1921 Field Francis H Silvey Wycombe 3a 2456 Silvey Elizabeth H Field Wycombe 3a 2456
their children.........
Births Mar 1925 Field Frances E Simmonds Wycombe 3a 1470
Births Sep 1927 Field Phyllis J Simmonds Wycombe 3a 1454 ( could this be June as 2nd initial is J)?
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31 Aug 2009 03:21 |
Maybe births for children of Victor?
Births Dec 1924 Simmonds Female Butler Easthampstead 2c 643
Births Jun 1931 Simmonds May Butler Easthampstead 2c 668 Simmonds Peter Butler Easthampstead 2c 668
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