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linda
im ordering the death cert now is it catharine or catherine?
thank you its ok ive found it
you have been very helpful
regards david

Just hope someone with the norfolk discs see's your threads!! Cheers Linda :)

linda
thank you
i will send for that death cert i think that will be her its worth getting it anyway
ive just looked at norfolk library fh research services 30 mins £16-50 1 hr £ 33

I certainly would, if they can do a proper check of the marriage between elijah and catherine/keren they may come up with new clues, and this may help if it is the correct catherine:

Name: Catharine Davy
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 84
District: Docking
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 223 (click to see others on page)

It depends on who registered the death and what they knew about her.

Regards Linda :)

linda
thank you for your time & efforts
where do you think i will get some further info is it worh contacting norfolk library

Well a search of family search only came up with adelaide, and guess what?!


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Adelaide Davy Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 24 FEB 1836 Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Elijah Davy Family
Mother: Karonhappuch


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

I023104 Film

Great help!

Regards Linda :)

linda
ive done that
thank you
ijust to mention
i have emmas birth cert mothers maiden name gowing
be interesting if i could get the other childrens birth certs too

Well, here are catherine and elijah in the 1841 census:

Name: Elizah Davy
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
Hundred: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Great Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Northern
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizah Davy 40 (mistranscribed)
Catherine Davy 40
Elizabeth Davy 12
Ann Davy 14
Adaliade Davy 6
Emma Davy 3

So now we try and find the childrens births and see what maiden name catherine/keren has given. And a suggestion? I would change my thread name to david gowing, norfolk and someone there may be able to check the local library.

Regards Linda :)

thank you linda & margaret
any suggestions ?? maybe norfolk fhs & suffolk fhs can help
what do you think any suggestions welcomed
linda , i will send for the tibbenham marr cert o see who the witnesses were as ive mentioned in this post emma tibbenham nee davy is karrenhappuch half sister she & her husband w ere witnesses to her marr to ben ely de carle
maybe she was a witness for thier marr too
why does f h seem so complicated at times just when i thought i had found my long lost great great grandmother im still struggling to find her
oh well lets see if im lucky with this sooner or later thank you for all your efforts

Thanks for that margaret, narrows down the search somewhat, and comes up with not much of anything for a catherine loch/lotch!!!

Regards Linda :)

Kerrenhapuch is a christian name, I have come across it before. That 1841 census is Kerrenhapuch Candler, the transcriber has just separated the Kerren from the Hapuch.

This is the only david I can find on the 1841 census:

Name: David Gowing
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Mickfield
Hundred: Bosmere and Claydon
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub-registration district: Debenham
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Gowing 50
Lucy Gowing 45
Mary Mayham 20
Leonard Nunn 25
Ann Carter 15

Regards Linda :)

Emma and john married in ipswich and their first son was born in marylebone london:

Marriages Sep 1866 (>99%)
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Tibbenham John Ipswich 4a 881

Regards Linda :)

OK 1891:

Name: Emma Tibbenham
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: Ipswich Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Tibbenham 48
Emma Tibbenham 48
William Tibbenham 22
Arthur Tibbenham 20
Frank Tibbenham 16
Lewis Tibbenham 12
Fred Tibbenham 9
Percy Tibbenham 7
Charlotte Jacobs 17

So emma and john born 1843ish!

Regards Linda :)

Ok let's just keep finding records until we can make sense of it all for you!!

1841 census
Name: Eli Tibbenham Carle
[Eli de Carle]
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil parish: St John Maddermarket
Hundred: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: West Wymer
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eli Tibbenham Carle 45
Ann Tibbenham Carle 40
Ann Tibbenham Carle 12

Regards Linda :)

Here's the marriage on BVRI but it's 1827:

DAVEY, Elijah Marriage
Wife: Kerenhappuch LOTCH
Marriage Date: 30 Jul 1827 Recorded in: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Source: FHL Film 1526456 Dates: 1806 - 1848

Nothing coming up for the surname kerrenhapcuh, but this may help:

Day: 07

Month: Sep

Year: 1819

Groom Forename: David
Groom Surname: Gowing

Groom's parish: Brockford

Groom's condition:

Bride Forename: Lucy A
Bride Surname: Goymour

Bride's Parish:

Bride's condition:

Place: Stonham Aspal

County: Suffolk

Country: England

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Record source: Suffolk Marriage Index (1813-37)

Data provider: Suffolk Family History Society

Regards Linda :)

Not sure that this helps but:

Name: Catherine Gowing
[Catherine Decarle]
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Female
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Hellesdon
Hundred: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Coslany
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Gowing 50
Hannah Gowing 40
Elizabeth Gowing 20
George Gowing 15
Hannah Gowing 12
Catherine Gowing 8
Edward Gowing 25
Elizabeth Green 20
Ann Cooke 25
Martin Catchpole 20
James Walpole 20
Edward Harvey 14

Regards Linda :)

hi i am trying to trace david gowing born norfolk that poss either a dopted or had in his family kerrenhapuch loch she was born c 1801 norfolk she later married elijah davy c 1825 in norfolk her christian name is stated as catherine
they had 4 children all born norfolk ann davy b c 1827
elizabeth davy c 1829
adelaide davy c 1835
emma davy 1838
i have emmas birth cert on this it gives her mother as kerrenhappuch davy maiden name gowing
my great grandmother charlotte gowing was the half sister of the davys
when she married ben ely decarle the marr cert gives emma tibbenham nee davy charlottes half sister as a witness along with her husband john tibbenham
this is such a puzzle any suggestions on how to trace kerrenhappuch loch /gowing
thank you for your time