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lou

sorry nothing for your bothwells or elizabeth canada is not very good more up date records ie after the 1920's

there is a tree on ancestry that has francis married to elizabeth isabella pedden though.

Hi Lorraine,

Many thanks for your very kind offer once again,
I wonder if you could look up this family for me please in Canada (Vancouver) . I think they are brother and sister.

Marriage;
Franics Ralph Bothwell b 1917 Canada he died in 1982 Burnaby Canada.
I know he is buried in the Masonic Cemetary,but it's his marriage I am after. I think he may have married an Elizabeth Pedden, but when and were? She died 30th Oct 2002. Ralph Bothwell's parents were William John and Catherine. I think Francis was in the army

Marriage and burial;
Also a Florence Mildred Bothwell b 15 July 1919 died 13 Jan 1934.
I don't know if she married or where she is buried.

Much appreciate your help,

Regards, Lou

squirrel

sorry cant find him on any passenger lists

lorraine

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david

there is a marriage for a jessie tucknott in 1891

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Jessie Tucknott
Name: Jessie Tucknott
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Greenwich
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1566

but your jessie would only have been 14 so not sure if its right you would have to send for cert to see if the parents names are correct

i cant find any of them on census after 1891

Lorraine,
This was information l received from Tucknott´s in America that is also on their tree, and then they mentioned Mary who died in 1913, so there must be an error on their part.
My Joseph William J Tucknott b1880 or his sister Jessica b1878 dissappeared after the 1881 census. Thanks to you we know were Joseph and his mother Nancy were in the 1891 Census as Thomas, Mary´s husband died in 1889.
Can you see Joseph, Jessica(1891 Census), and Nancy on the 1901 Census?
They appear to have dissappeared into thin air,
Regards
Dave
I believe they

dave

the joseph who went to america was married to violet montgomery not your joseph who stayed in uk

when did your grandfather jospeh and mary dorn marry?


and where was james andrew tucknott born?

do you have his birth records


this is violet e tucknott nee montgomery death record

Indiana Deaths, 1882-1920
about Violet E. Tucknott
Name: Violet E. Tucknott
Date: 22 Feb 1920
Location: Coolspring Township
Age: 32 yr
Gender: Female
Race: White
Source Location: County Health Office, Laporte

Lorraine,
Sorry to bother you again is there any sign of Mother and son in 1901?
Dave

Lorraine,
Thankyou, that´s cleared that up, now to get a bit of truth out of the Tucknott´s in the USA;
Hi David

Joseph Tucknott was my grandfather married to Mary. She was killed by a train when she was 31. I'll scan the article and email it to you.

My parents are James Andrew Tucknott(9/15/11) and Gladys Mary Tucknott 11/30/14
Which makes life confusing as you mention that Joseph was married to a Violet Emily Montgomery, not Mary who was killed by the train in 1913,
The Mary was said to have been a Mary C Dorn.
Whatdo we know about Violet Emily Montgomery?
Regards
Dave

david

found nancy on 1891 working as a cook says she is a widow

no sign of children with her

1891 England Census
about Nancy Tucknett
Name: Nancy Tucknett
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Cook
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Bloomsbury St George
Ecclesiastical parish: Bloomsbury St George
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St George Bloomsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Marshall 38
Mip Rivers 83
Louisa Fowler 28
Nancy Tucknett 45
John W Ross 38



think this is the birth of jessica josephs sister

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Jessica Caroline J Tucknott
Name: Jessica Caroline J Tucknott
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Marylebone (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 590


and josephs birth




Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Joseph William J Tucknott
Name: Joseph William J Tucknott
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Marylebone (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 584

found your joseph



1891 England Census
about Joseph W D Tucknett
Name: Joseph W D Tucknett
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Giles North
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles, North
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Martha A Stallworth 58
Percy C Stallworth 19
Maria Stallworth 50
Charles E C Raymond 10
Alfred Janes 15
Albert G Busey 9
Bernard J Turner 13
Frederick C Miles 12
Ralph Wesley 11
Thomas Snell 11
Arthur H Farrant 12
Hugh Millar 10
Arthur S Davids 13
Thomas G Garney 15
Joseph W D Tucknett 10
Harry Grettitho 10
Herbert S Wilkens 12
Percy A Austen 13
Henry C Spencer 14
William H Spencer 12
William H Walden 14
Edward G Giffin 15
Charles H Freshwater 13
William H Y Hicks 13
Benjamin T Dawes 15
George B Y Hicks 11
George T Sharp 11
Alfred Harding 14
John W Sides 11
Albert Humms 12
Henry G Elliot 13
Charles Brewer 12
George G White 14
Frederick C Stallworth 12
William T Winchester 14
Edward Reid 13
Oliver Lee 13
James Townsend 11
Joseph Brun 14
Henry Stevens 11
William Graves 13
Walter L Lane 10
Edward Smith 13
Lewis Hogg 10
Harry Thomas 13
Walter Hall 11
Walter G Stallworth 13
Cooper Allison 14
Alfred E Smith 14
Joseph J Harney 10
William F Smith 10
William I Spencer 13
Benjamin Bradford 11
Harry Brake 12
Alexander G Hurt 11
Edward E Edwards 12
Alfred J Morris 13
Arthur Earney 14
Henry Murrey 12
David C Medley 12
William Dent 14
William J Anderson 14
Henry Ayley 12
Robert W Rixon 13
John Singer 10
Charles Newall 15
William Hamilton 14
Daniel Meegan 12
Frederick T Medley 14
George Henry Medley 12
William E Marshall 14
Henry Osborne 14
William Atkins 12
George Warne 13
Ernest Redington 9
George Wilmott 11
John Henry Croop 14
Albert Hogg 15
Frederick C Peckmer 9
Henry Bowell 15
Edward Scott 17
Martin Scott 16
George C White 11
Anderson Charles 13
William Henry Powers 13
Henry Grainger 11
William Altham 13
Frank Benge 13
Edward W Ward 14
Edward Lundy 11
William Dantes 14
Edward Walters 10
Henry R Thomas 13
James Rust 11
Ernest F Catterall 12
Francis G F Spencer 10
Walter Willcoxson 11
Henry Cornwall



living in a boys home, so nancy is a widow and the joseph is living in a home

so he is not the joseph who went to usa

cont;
both dissappeared and l assumed Joseph went to the USA

Lorraine,
This was my thought that James´s parents were Thomas b1846 Preston,Sussex and Nancy Leadbitter b1845 Marylebone,London,England They had Joseph William J. Tucknott b1880 Marylebone,London,Middlesex,England and Jessica b1878

david cont

the death of violet mother of james and mabel tucknott

Indiana Deaths, 1882-1920
about Violet E. Tucknott
Name: Violet E. Tucknott
Date: 22 Feb 1920
Location: Coolspring Township
Age: 32 yr
Gender: Female
Race: White
Source Location: County Health Office, Laporte
Source Notes: The source of this record is the book H-29 on page 100 within the series produced by the Indiana Works Progress Administration

there is a tree on ancestry which seems to have gone down the same route as you with the story of joseph going to usa

the have a joseph tucknott born c 1880 london living with parents in london in 1881

parents names are thomas and nancy


but they are using the 1900 census which is shown above saying it is the same joseph even though the parents names on the 1900 census are william and jane, seems to be some confusion there.

Are your josephs parents called nancy and thomas or william and jane?

squirrel

nothing definate on passenger lists what are his parents names please

lorraine

david
this looks like the right one

1900 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Tucknott
Name: Joseph Tucknott
Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 12, Cook, Illinois
Age: 19
Birth Date: Jun 1881
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relationship to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: William
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Name: Jane
Mother's Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Single
Residence : Chicago City, Cook, Illinois
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Tucknott 50
Jane Tucknott 56
James Tucknott 22
Joseph Tucknott 19
Adeline Tucknott 15
Annie Tucknott 15
Ada Tucknott 13
Andrew Tucknott 9
Arnold Tucknott 6
Allen Tucknott 5
Arthur Tucknott 25
Hattie Tucknott 22
Charles Ingalls 20
AL Basler 21
Wm Sutkee 22


fathers occuption - feed store
josephs occupation - teamster

children down to ada born england
andrew, arnold and allan born illinois
son arthur born england
daughter in law hattie born illinois

bottom 3 are boarders


cant find him on 1910 but will keep looking


1920

1920 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Tucknott
Name: Joseph Tucknott
Home in 1920: Springfield, La Porte, Indiana
Age: 39 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Birthplace: Illinois
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Widow
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 1074
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Tucknott 39
Mabel Tucknott 15
Alice Tucknott 11
James Tucknott 8


mabel born illinois
alice born north dakota
james born indiana

childrens mothers birthplace given as illinois

josephs occupation is given as labourer


1930 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Tucknott
Name: Joseph Tucknott
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
View Map
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Illinois
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Tucknott 50
James Tucknott 18
Thomas Burns 69
Catherine Burns 66


josephs place of birth is given as illinois but im sure its the right one

his occupation is teamster
james occupation is given as labourer he gives his place of birth as wisconsin

they are not living with the burns they are at a different address


different middle name to what you gave so not sure if the right one

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Joseph Albert Tucknott
Name: Joseph Albert Tucknott
City: Chicago
County: Cook
State: Illinois
Birth Date: 7 Jun 1880
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1503987
DraftBoard: 77
Age:

Occupation:

Nearest Relative:

Height/Build:

Color of Eyes/Hair:
Signature:

occupation teamster
next of kin wife jane

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Joseph Tucknott
Name: Joseph Tucknott
Birth Date: 7 Jun 1880
Birth Place: Chicago, Illinois
Residence: Alameda, California
Race: White
Roll: WWII_2393866

this should confirm if the war records are the right ones as this death gives mothers maiden names

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Joseph A Tucknott
Name: Joseph A Tucknott
Social Security #: 555120532
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 7 Jun 1880
Birthplace: Illinois
Death Date: 26 Mar 1952
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Graser
Father's Surname: Tucknott

possible for son james death

Social Security Death Index
about James A. Tucknott
Name: James A. Tucknott
SSN: 573-18-1736
Last Residence: 94546 Castro Valley, Alameda, California, United States of America
Born: 11 Aug 1911
Died: 3 Dec 1993
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about James Allen Tucknott
Name: James Allen Tucknott
Social Security #: 573181736
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 11 Aug 1911
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Death Date: 3 Dec 1993
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Montgomery

found this birth cert for mabel daughter of joseph it matches with mothers maiden name being montgomery so she is the sister of james listed above

Mabel jane tucknott
born april 6th 1904
at mary thompson hospital chicago illinois
mothers name violet emily montgomery / birthplace scotland
fathers name albert joseph tucknott/ born england/ occupation teamster

the image is on familysearch.org on the main page
hold mouse over search images and a drop down box will appear select record pilot search

Indiana Deaths, 1882-1920
about Violet E

Lorraine,
Please can you help;
Do you have access to USA Census Records?
I am trying to confirm that in the 1900 or/and 1910 Census there was a Joseph William J Tucknott b1880 in London, with a wife Mary C nee Dorn b 1882.
Rumours say that he travelled over in 1888, his first child was Mabel b1905 in USA, second child Alice Violet b1909 North Dakota, and 3rd James Allen b1911 in Chicago,Illinois,USA.
Regards
Dave

Re: Charles Redding : Many thanks for this additional info. I was given " Castle Garden" as the point of entry for him into the USA. I am assuming that Charles did stay in the USA as he certainly does not appear on any later census's in England. Once again thanks for your help, it is much appreciated.

Margaret.

margaret

Found him on the passenger list as you said


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Chas Redding
Name: Chas Redding
Arrival Date: 10 Sep 1872
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France and London, England
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: England
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Ship Name: Denmark
Search Ship Database: Search the Denmark in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 18
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_365
List Number: 983
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United

occupation labourer

what does castle garden refer to i cant see it written on the list


looked on us census but cant find him

he may have gone back to england but the incoming lists dont start until 1878 so may have been before that

Hi Lorraine. Thank you for your help. It is really strange that you have found one with the surname King. Everything else fits like you said. I wonder if he changed his name at some point and for what reason. I thought he would have to be somewhere. there isn't even a birth registration for him. It is like he never existed. I will follow this info up that you have given me.
Thank you again
Regards
Marlene

marlene

i cant find him either he is not on any passenger lists


the only thing i could find was a this

the surname is wrong but the occupation place of birth and age fits

1871 England Census
about Walter King
Name: Walter King
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Jonas
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: St Saviour
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Saviour Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
Jonas King 44
Rebecca King 47
Walter King 17
Emma King 13
Elizabeth Steverson 39
Fanny Eliz Brown 6
Clare Pound 28
Eliza Agnes Pound 18


jonas isa builder and walter a clerk

the bottom 4 are lodgers