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Hi Lorraine
My great uncle went to Quebec via Glasgow in 1923 his family followed in 1924. They were all born Aberdeen -
Found his wife and daughters in Wayne, Michigan in 1930 census. Found his WWII draft Registration card for 1942 with his address as 68-49 Burns Street, Forest Hills, L1, Kings, New York.
Think he and his wife split as his contact given on this was a Rose Hardie. in Brooklyn, New York.
Cannot find anything on him after this, or his wife and daughters.
He is Frederick William Hardie b 26/2/1896.
Married Maggie Smith b 23.3.1899.
Daughters Margaret Smith Hardie b Nov 1919
Eliza Barrack Hardie b Nov 1921.
Maggie received naturalisation 6 June 1929
Fred received naturalisation 19 Sept 1939.

Loraine,
thanks so much for looking, thanks to you I am now muich furhter on with 2 of the brothers, which is a huge step in the right direction, thank you

Vicki

Lorraine,
Thank you so much for the look up on my Gaynor's.
The 1910 census looks like them going by the mothers name Agnes and his brother's name William as both names run in the family.
The 1930 census is the right one as the Good family are with him.
I just have to try and work out which one is his death.
This is much appreciated.

Jean

ruth

sorry for the delay have been unwell

found the ww2 you mentioned

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Frederick William Hardie
Name: Frederick William Hardie
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1896
Birth Place: Aberdeen
Residence: Kings, New York
Race: White
Roll: WW2_2369782

the original address he gave the same as rose hardies is crossed out and a new one above

this is his crossing to usa

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Frederick William Hardie
Name: Frederick William Hardie
Arrival Date: 4 Aug 1923
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1896
Birth Country: Scotland
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scotch (Scotish)

Ship Name: Saturnia
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland

travelling alone
occupation brass pattern maker
final destination detroit michigan
next of kin maggie hardie
17 fountain st
banff


Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1957
about Frederick William Hardie
Name: Frederick William Hardie
Arrival Date: 19 Sep 1927
Age: 31 years 7 months
Birth Date: abt 1896
Birthplace: Aberdeen
Birth Country: Scotland
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scotch (Scotish)

Port of Arrival: Detroit, Michigan
Departure Contact: Wife Maggie

Microfilm Roll Number: M1478_27

travelling alone to work for a foundary in michigan
next of kin wife maggie in windsor ontario


I cant find a death for him though

the only thing i can find on maggie is what you already have no death for her she may have remarried or died before the records they have quite limited depending on state

nothing for daughter margaret apart from her boarder crossing with mother and sister

same for eliza sorry not much info for you

HI Lorraine
A couple of days ago you kindly found Hywell Evans on the US Census list for me in 1910, living as a boarder in Suffolk, Massachusetts. I have just re-read a family history that was written by my great grandfather and although it is a little jumbled, I think it states that Hywell had at least 2 sons, John Lloyd Evans and Roger Evans. I am afraid I have no idea of birth year, although would assume this was sometime between 1910 (when Hywell is listed as single age 32, on the US census) and 1925 which I am guessing at as an age he was likely to become a father! who knows though! I know by 1957 Roger is definately an adult and Hywell is still alive as I have a letter written by him and I get the impression he was born around a similar time to my grandfather and his sisters so from around 1910, 1912 ish.

Could you please check the US census in 1920 and 1930 to see if anything comes up under John Lloyd Evans and Roger Evans, father being Hywell Evans.

Many thanks

Vicki

vikki

just to confirm right hywell

1910 United States Federal Census
about Hywell Evans
Name: Hywell Evans
Age in 1910: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Wales
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Wales
Mother's Birth Place: Wales
Home in 1910: Boston Ward 20, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1905
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles G Knight 38
Jesse A O Knight 30
Marjorie E Knight 2
Jean I Knight 1 9/12
Robert Knight 32
Jessie A G Knight 56
Hywell Evans 32


bingo

1920 United States Federal Census
about Howell Evans
Name: Howell Evans
Home in 1920: Schenectady Ward 12, Schenectady, New York
Age: 43 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Wales
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Isabelle D
Father's Birth Place: Wales
Mother's Birth Place: Wales
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1905
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 446
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Howell Evans 43
Isabelle D Evans 43
John L Evans 6
Roger B Evans 3 1/12
Sebine H Weltin 76


isabelle born massachusetts
john and roger born mass
sebine is isabelles mother born maine

hywells occuption is inspector electric company

1930 United States Federal Census
about Howell Evans
Name: Howell Evans
Home in 1930: Auburn, Cayuga, New York
View Map
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Wales
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Howell Evans 50
John L Evans 16
Roger B Evans 13
Azale Filion 49


hywell is a widower
on this one it says john and roger born pennsylvania
azale is a lodger

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Howell Evans
Name: Howell Evans
County: Schenectady
State: New York
Birth Date: 4 Aug 1876
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1818986
DraftBoard: 0

next of kin wife isabelle
occupation inspector of machinery


cant find a death for howell/hywell

Lorraine, I can't thank you enough, that is great.

I have no idea how recent the US census records go, is there anyway to trace John Lloyd and Roger B Evans? I have this letter from 1957, written to my Grandfather from Roger and in it, he talks of his father Hywell and in 1957, he still sounds very much alive so I guess he died 1960 onwards.

Thank you for all your help

Vicki

Hi Lorraine
Could you find this family after 1861 ......

1861 census Malling,Kent
John Cooper 32 b Barming,Kent
Jane Cooper aged 33 b Teston,Kent
Elizabeth Cooper 4 b Barming
Mary Ann Cooper 2 b West Malling,Kent

Thanks
Kerri

Hi Lorraine
thank you so much for having a look for me.
Best Wishes :)
Ruth xx

hi vikki
the census only go up to 1930 i can't find a death record or any marriages for them when state in usa was the letter sent from

Hi Lorraine
Thanks for looking, the letter was more of a handwritten note of about 6 lines attached to the front of a family history with Roger Evans' name on it, reference to his father Hywell and a date, so no clue as to where it was sent from. I now wonder if it was the UK< will get on ancestry and check this out!

Many thanks again

Vicki

kerri

just making sure right family

1861 England Census
about John Cooper
Name: John Cooper
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Barming, Kent, England

Civil parish: West Malling
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Malling
Sub-registration district: East Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
John Cooper 32
Jane Cooper 33
Elizabeth Cooper 4
Mary Ann Cooper


jane born teston kent


i cant find them on the 1871 do you know if they went to usa or canada

HI Lorraine

I hope it is OK to keep asking you for look-ups, I am feeling increasingly guility as there seems to be so many, please say when enough is enough.

A few days ago, you found the below info for me

1920 United States Federal Census
about Howell Evans
Name: Howell Evans
Home in 1920: Schenectady Ward 12, Schenectady, New York
Age: 43 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Wales
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Isabelle D
Father's Birth Place: Wales
Mother's Birth Place: Wales
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1905
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 446
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Howell Evans 43
Isabelle D Evans 43
John L Evans 6
Roger B Evans 3 1/12
Sebine H Weltin 76


isabelle born massachusetts
john and roger born mass


1930 United States Federal Census
about Howell Evans
Name: Howell Evans
Home in 1930: Auburn, Cayuga, New York
View Map
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Wales
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Occupation:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Howell Evans 50
John L Evans 16
Roger B Evans 13
Azale Filion 49

on this one it says john and roger born pennsylvania

Could I please ask to see if you can find a marriage registration for either John or Roger.

Many,. many thanks
Vicki

Hi Lorraine
Yes,that's the correct COOPER family in 1861. Its possible that they could have gone to Canada. 2 brothers of Jane COOPER (nee GILBERT) went to Ontario,Canada & settled in Holland Landing/Bradford,Ontario. One brother John later to went to Wisconsin.

I have more information on them if this could help in the search. And also Jane's Aunt ,Ann CHAPMAN (nee BATES), lived in Holland Landing.

Thanks
Kerri

vicki

sorry nothing for a marriage for either of them unfortunatley usa is not like uk where all marriages are available it depends on the state as to what is available and they are hit and miss really

You could try familysearch.org under search drop down to pilot search, they are constantly indexing new records from usa and you may be lucky it is free too.

Lorraine .I,m grasping at straws here , Florence H Barsby bn 1916 , Can,t find Marr or Death ,Hoping she has gone oversees ,Thank You Robert

Thanks Lorraine, will give family search a go, didnt even think of that.

Vicki

Hi Lorraine - thanks for your offer of lookups.
Arthur Slater was born in Leeds in 1894, son of Edward Wood Slater and Lucy Horrox. He travelled out to Canada, Toronto in 1913 when his sister died in tragic circumstances. We don't think he returned to England. Not sure if this is a big ask, but if you can find any travel information for him, between Canadan and England, between 1913 and 1921.
Arthur was hit by a train (and killed) whilst working for Hydro at Niagara Falls Ontario. 21st Feb 1921. We know he was a 'returned soldier' and presume he had been in the Canadian Army. If you could find any army records relating to him that would be wonderful - please.
He was unmarried, but believe he had left a fiance behind in Leeds.
If i'm asking too much then the war records are the most important.
Many Thanks - Judith

kerri

cant find anything definate for john in canada on passenger lists or census

when did the other family members go and what are their dates of births please

robert

is this the right one?

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Florence H Barsby
Name: Florence H Barsby
Mother's Maiden Surname: Partridge
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1916
Registration district: Wellingbro
Registration county: Cambridgeshire/Bedfordshire, Huntingtonshire, Northhamptonshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 228

possible marriage

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Florence H Barsby
Name: Florence H Barsby
Spouse Surname: Barber
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1936
Registration district: Wisbech
Registration county (inferred): Cambridgeshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 1865

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Albert G Barber
Name: Albert G Barber
Spouse Surname: Barsby
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1936
Registration district: Wisbech
Registration county (inferred): Cambridgeshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 1865