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Lorraine,
I really appreciate all your help.

Sandra

sandra

i have found ethels birth doesnt give details of parents but pretty sure its the right one










Last Name First Name Town Years Volume Page
Campbell Ethel Mabel Easthampton 1889 395 8


but i cant find her or george on any later census

Hi Lorraine

Thankyou very much for the info. re: William Wren Asbrey.

As for Bert i am not sure where to look now !

I have Googled him & his name comes up on a role of honour for WW1 soldiers who were killed in action/died from wounds from the Kettering area.

He was registered at birth as Bert Asbrey so do you think his name may be mistranscribed on war records as Albert by mistake ? ( i have also seen Asbrey mistranscribed as Asprey / Asberg & Hasbrey ).

Thankyou for your help.

Roy

Lorraine,
Thank you very much for all your help.

Sandra

roy

the only other asbrey i could find ww1 deaths is this one

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Harold Asbrey
Name: Harold Asbrey
Birth Place: Kettering, Northants
Residence: Kettering
Death Date: 13 Aug 1917
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Sussex Regiment
Battalion: 13th Battalion.
Number: G/15683
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Aldershot

from googling found this

1916
BERKSHIRE REGIMENT
PTE
BERT
ASBREY

KETTERING
DIED FROM WOUNDS


he is also listed on the war graves commission site

Name: ASBREY
Initials: B
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Berkshire Regiment
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 16/11/1916
Service No: 37441
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. E. 45.
Cemetery: GROVE TOWN CEMETERY, MEAULTE


Cemetery: GROVE TOWN CEMETERY, MEAULTE
Country: France
Locality: Somme


william is also on there

Name: ASBREY, WILLIAM WREN
Initials: W W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Northamptonshire Regiment
Unit Text: 1st/4th Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 19/04/1917
Service No: 200283
Additional information: Brother of Mrs. E. Worthington, of 49, Grafton-under-Wood, Kettering, Northants.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 40.
Memorial: JERUSALEM MEMORIAL


Cemetery: JERUSALEM MEMORIAL
Country: Israel
Locality: unspecified


ah found it on ancestry listed as bertie

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Bertie Asbery
Name: Bertie Asbery
Birth Place: Broughton, Northants
Residence: Kettering
Death Date: 16 Nov 1916
Rank: Private
Regiment: Princess Charlotte of Wales's (Royal Berkshire Regiment)
Battalion: 2nd Battalion.
Number: 37441
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Aldershot
Comments: Formerly 9148, Northants Regt

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
about Bertie Asbery
Name: Bertie Asbery
Regiment or Corps: Northamptonshire Regiment, Royal Berkshire Regiment
Regimental Number: 3/9148, 37441

awarded the victory, star and british medals


1901 England Census
about Joseph Asbery
Name: Joseph Asbery
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Cransley, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Kettering
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul with St Andrew and St Mary
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kettering
Sub-registration district: Kettering
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 195
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Asbery 41
Nellie Asbery 19
Lizzie Asbery 17
Joseph Asbery 13
Annie Asbery 12
Alice Asbery 10
Bertie Asbery 8
Mellie Asbery 4
William Asbery 2

Thanks so much for all of this info. Lorraine !

Very sad - but great to finally find them both.

My uncle who is also my second cousin ( his grandmother was the sister of Bert & William ) never even knew they existed,which is so sad.

Now we can both reclaim them & remember them for the heroes they were.

Sincerely

Roy

roy

glad we found them so tragic that two brothers died so close to each other in the war.

lorraine

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Hi Lorraine

Been trying to track a family called GOODMAN they seem to dissapear after 1881..thought maybe they went to in USA or the likes...

Archibald Peach Goodman b Lpool 1840
Harriet b Lpool 1844

kids

Jane H 1863
Hannah Margaret 1865
William T 1868
Archibald P 1874
Eleanor Maude 1877
Charles 1879
Catherine

All born Toxteth Liverpool

Thought maybe passenger lists of USA census 1891 1901 may have something.. as they cant have just vanished..

Cheers hun

Colette xx

Hi Lorraine

Looking for the birth of John Stanley SCOTT b 19/04/1914 in Frood Mine, Sudbury, Ontario. There are 4 other siblings too ??

Parents were Thomas and Annie Scott from Liverpool England.

Much appreciated

Jo

colette

not sure how much you have so will list all i find

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Archibald Peach Goodman
Name: Archibald Peach Goodman
Year of Registration: 1839
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 482

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Archibald [P_]Each Goodman
Name: Archibald [P_]Each Goodman
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 239

Harriet Haswell 1861


1881 England Census
about Archibald P. Goodman
Name: Archibald P. Goodman
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 4 Barter St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Mariner

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 62
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Archibald P. Goodman 41
Harriet Goodman 36
Hannah Goodman 15
Archibald P. Goodman 6
Ellenor M. Goodman 4
Charles Goodman 2
Catherine M. Goodman
Harriet Higginson 15


harriett higginson is listed as visitor


very strange but i just cant find them after this i have checked passenger lists but nothing for them that i can see

jo


ontario birth only go up to 1909 but wiil what i can find on parents and any other siblings

Canadian Soldiers of World War I, 1914-1918
about Thomas Scott
Name: Thomas Scott
Residence: Frood, Mine, Ontario
Birth Date: 26 Nov 1879
Birth Location: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Relative: Annie Scott
Relationship: Wife
Regiment Number: 648795

occuaption labourer


possibles for siblings do you know annies maiden name

Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1909
about James Scott
Name: James Scott
Date of Birth: 13 Jun 1908
Gender: Male
Birth County: Oxford
Father's Name: Thomas Scott
Mother's Name: Annie Lamb
Roll Number: VRBCAN1908_102539



Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1909
about Thomas Scott
Name: Thomas Scott
Date of Birth: 22 Aug 1906
Gender: Male
Birth County: Oxford
Father's Name: Thomas Scott
Mother's Name: Anna Lamb
Roll Number: MS929_183

Hello Lorraine.
I have a Lily Barker born 1891 Croydon Surrey who married a Douglas B Craig in 1918 at Croydon,then at sometime they went to the USA.
A hint came up on Ancestry with a Doulas B Craig 1930 American census Residence Rogers Oklahoma.
Could you please have a look for me to see if it says where Douglas was born and his age as I cannot find his birth and also anybody else living with him.
Your help would be very much appreciated.
Regards Alan.

alan

have found them going to usa



New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Douglas B Craig
Name: Douglas B Craig
Arrival Date: 25 Jun 1956
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Franconia
Search Ship Database: View the Franconia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Scotland
Line: 10
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_8739
Birth Location: Scotland
Page Number: 61

gives address as
634 st javine
olklahoma

travelling with lily

no ages on that one though

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Douglas B Craig
Name: Douglas B Craig
Arrival Date: 23 Feb 1921
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Age: 30 Years 10 Months
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Southampton
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Ship Name: Aquitania
Search Ship Database: View the Aquitania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Scotland
Line: 15
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_2929
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: arbtoath
Page Number: 117

occupation farmer
travelling with lily aged 27
daisy craig aged 1

next of kin in uk
sister
mrs w t cope
arbroath
scotland

going to olklahoma



says douglas born arbroath
lily croyden
daisy croyden

1930 United States Federal Census
about Douglas B Craig
Name: Douglas B Craig
Home in 1930: Chelsea, Rogers, Oklahoma
View Map
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Lilly
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Douglas B Craig 40
Lilly Craig 38
Daisy M Craig 10
Dorothy Craig 9
Lilly M Craig 7


says dorothy born england
lilly m born kansas


Social Security Death Index
about Douglas Craig
Name: Douglas Craig
SSN: 447-18-4552
Last Residence: 74070 Skiatook, Osage, Oklahoma, United States of America
Born: 5 Mar 1890
Died: Dec 1975
State (Year) SSN issued: Oklahoma (Before 1951

Social Security Death Index
about Lily Craig
Name: Lily Craig
SSN: 441-64-7375
Last Residence: 74070 Skiatook, Osage, Oklahoma, United States of America
Born: 27 Jul 1891
Died: Aug 1984
State (Year) SSN issued: Oklahoma (1973

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Daisy M Craig
Name: Daisy M Craig
Mother's Maiden Surname: Barker
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1919
Registration district: Hastings
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 14

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Dorothy P Craig
Name: Dorothy P Craig
Mother's Maiden Surname: Barker
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1920
Registration district: Hastings
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 24

Hello Lorraine.
Thank you very much for your help and time, I never expected all that information.
Regards Alan.

Lorraine

Thank you so much, yes Annie Scott's maiden name was Lamb, she and Thomas Scott had five children, all supposedly born in Frood Mine Sudbury, Ontario, before returning to Liverpool, England.

My grandfather in law was John Stanley Scott born 19/04/1914, I would seriously love to find out more about his birth if I can.

John Stanley Scott had five siblings, you have found two of them (THANKYOU) can you possibly find:
Ethel
Isabella
William

Thanks again Lorraine, you are going to make my father in law's day.

Jo xx

Hi Lorraine,

Could you look for a George Wharram (my Grandfather whom I never knew) he was already in Montreal Canada serving in the Canadian Irish Rangers and then enlisted into the The 199th (Duchess of Connaught's Own Irish Rangers) Battalion Canadian Expeditionary Force and came over to the UK to fight in France the 1st World War in1916 he went back to Montreal in 1919 I know that ... but what I would like to know is when he actually went to Canada in the first place before 1916 ... his birth date that he gave on his Army Papers of May 21st 1895 is not Registered in the UK Birth Registry though he states he was born in Hull. Could you try and find him before 1916 please, he could be in Montreal, I would like to find out when he actually went over to Canada and also I know he came back to the UK after he was demobbed in 1919 and would also like to know what date he came back to the UK .. I hope I am not asking too much.
I am new to building my Tree and already this man is giving me problems lol

Many Thanks

jo

unfortunatley ontario births only go up to 1909 so they must have been born after that

jusme

do you have his marriage cert as that would give his fathers name?

this is what i could find on him

, 1865-1935
about George Wharram
Name: George Wharram
Date of Arrival: 5 Apr 1919
Vessel: Caronia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Caronia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14795

says he is in the 23rd reserves and next of kin is wife going to monreal

what is his wifes name



Canadian Soldiers of World War I, 1914-1918
about Georga Wharram
Name: Georga Wharram
Residence: Montreal
Birth Date: 21 May 1895
Birth Location: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Relative: Miss Muriel Bailey
Relationship: Stepsister
Regiment Number: 919849

occupation fireman



New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about George Wharram
Name: George Wharram
Arrival Date: 24 Oct 1924
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Hull Via Newcastle and Abirdeen
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Ship Name: Galileo
Search Ship Database: Search the Galileo in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 22
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_3561
Page Number: 193

member of crew
occupation fireman

nationality british


cant find him on a cenus in canada