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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 2 Jul 2009 01:57

For info, the household she was with in 1911:

LOVE WILLIAM M 1889 22 Ashton under Lyne Lancashire
LOVE SARAH ALICE F 1889 22 Ashton under Lyne Lancashire
LOVE ETHEL F 1910 13 MONTHS Ashton under Lyne Lancashire

It's always worth considering that a youhg woman who was a domestic servant became pregnant by a member of the employer household. (Happened to my gr-grmother, possibly not by choice.) Doesn't look like any connection here.

Tip - it's simple if a bit time-consuming to find unrelated members of a household.

Use advanced search, search for surnames "starting with" just one letter, working your way through the the alphabet, living with your person in the person's place of residence. If your person's name isn't terribly common, it will work.

I also checked WWI military enrolments in Canada - given the 1918 date of birth, it's possible James was from elsewhere, in England with a military. No match in Canadian records:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php

but he could have been from somewhere else.


Penny

Penny Report 1 Jul 2009 23:28

Braunston and Potterspury are a fair a distance apart.I'd say that was probably coincedence

Im not sure how you are going to know if that birth cert is the right one.

jansmith

jansmith Report 1 Jul 2009 23:22

1901 Interesting the person next on the image to Eva was born in Northamptonshire. This is him
Name: Frank Steins
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie E
Gender: Male
Where born: Braunstone, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Hazelgrove Cum Bramhall
Ecclesiastical parish: Norbury St Thomas

Michelle

Michelle Report 1 Jul 2009 13:54

Thankyou very much.

I came to the same conclusion, this has to be her as only one birth index. I still cannot find a marriage to either Henry nor my ggrandfather. I have ordered her birth certificate and i am just waiting for it to arrive, i would like to know where she went after my grandad's birth, is this possible or is the 1921 census the only way?(when it comes out!)

Also, i have an address where they lived in Dec 1918 as 78 Higher Ardwick, Manchester. Will this help to find the illustrious James Edmund Prince? I cannot find any details at all of him, birth marriage or death. I know he brought my grandad up on his own for the first years of his life in Ardwick/Chorlton area? Which has led me to be believe he wouldn't have served in the army, although my grandad did in ww2.

Thankyou again

Michelle


jansmith

jansmith Report 1 Jul 2009 08:16

??1901 only one i can see but says born London
Name: Eva Redgrave
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Hazelgrove Cum Bramhall
Ecclesiastical parish: Norbury St Thomas
Town: Hazlegrove
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England


Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Boydell 35
Edith L Boydell 33
Eva Redgrave 8



This seems to be the only birth index though
Name: Eva Ada S Redgrave
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Potterspury
County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 23

If you want to trace the family and think this is the one you would need to buy the cert

mgnv

mgnv Report 1 Jul 2009 08:15

In the 1911 record jansmith found, her relationship to head of household is servant.

jansmith

jansmith Report 1 Jul 2009 07:39

? 1911 census
HOUSEHOLD REDGRAVE EVA ADA F 1892 19 Ashton under Lyne Lancashire

Penny

Penny Report 1 Jul 2009 07:35

do you know for a fact she was born in Pottersbury or just that reg district? or just the right name match so assume?

what was her fathers names?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jul 2009 06:45

the words "late Henry" usually mean that the woman has been married before, and is either a widow or a divorcee.


In 1918, it is more likely that she would have been a widow.




sylvia

Michelle

Michelle Report 1 Jul 2009 05:40

Hi all, sorry to have to ask but please could anybody help me with the following;

I ordered my grandads birth certificate (from Dec 1918) and this lists his mother as Eva Ada Prince nee Redgrave late Henry (exact words) and his fathers name as James Edmund Prince, this was registered in Chorlton, Manchester.

I have found Eva's birth details but cannot find anything else, she was born in September 1892 in Potterspury, Northamptonshire. I then located her on the 1901 census where she is a child boarder in Stockport. I thought the late may mean she passed away shortly after my grandads birth but cannot find any records of her death or life afterwards.

Also, James Edmund Prince is listed as an engineers clerk but this is the only information i have to go off and cannot find any details of birth, marriage or death.

I know this is not a lot to go off and i am sorry i couldn't provide more info, my grandad passed a number of years ago and told my mother that he cannot remember about his childhood except that he was in an orphanage at one point.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Thanks

Michelle